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Title: Eva by Automata - Low-cost robot arm
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on July 05, 2019, 09:05:27 am
Thought this was interesting - UK startup introduces a £5000 6-joint industrial robot.
Anyone know the price of the nearest competition?

https://automata.tech/ (https://automata.tech/)

http://www.eurekamagazine.co.uk/design-engineering-features/technology/low-cost-industrial-robot/217059/ (http://www.eurekamagazine.co.uk/design-engineering-features/technology/low-cost-industrial-robot/217059/)
Title: Re: Eva by Automata - Low-cost robot arm
Post by: lukier on July 05, 2019, 09:43:16 am
This is really low cost compared to similar arms from Kinova or even Franka Emika.

The specs unfortunately are silent on the stuff that's important nowadays in modern applications that involve Reinforcement Learning in the control loop. Stuff such as torque/force sensors in the joints.
Is the kinematic chain compliant is also missing, 280W is quite some power, can do some harm.

Also I wonder if this max 750mm/s toolpath velocity is valid with max payload (1.25 kg). Usually one needs much bigger robots to move mass that fast (e.g. ABB IRB-1400, 5 kg payload, 2 m/s, but this robot weighs 225kg).
Title: Re: Eva by Automata - Low-cost robot arm
Post by: H.O on July 05, 2019, 01:10:23 pm
Motion looks a bit wobbly but then my experience is with much larger (and much more expensive) KUKA KR16 robots.

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it includes an on-board controller in its base and comes with a free subscription to Automata’s Choreograph software
Control software on subscription?
Title: Re: Eva by Automata - Low-cost robot arm
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on July 05, 2019, 01:49:18 pm
Quote from: H.O on July 05, 2019, 01:10:23 pm
Motion looks a bit wobbly but then my experience is with much larger (and much more expensive) KUKA KR16 robots.

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it includes an on-board controller in its base and comes with a free subscription to Automata’s Choreograph software
Control software on subscription?
They say it's a lifetime sub somewhere
Title: Re: Eva by Automata - Low-cost robot arm
Post by: H.O on July 06, 2019, 09:09:49 am
If that's the case then why not just give me a stand alone license?
Subscription (be it it "free" and "lifetime"), to me, sounds like the thing is teathered to their server somehow - if they go tits up or decides to do the Autodesk manouver (plain out lie about their intentions) the thing becomes a £5000 paper weight.

Oh well, that subscription thing just stood out when I read it.