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Hey parents...
« on: November 05, 2016, 09:33:04 am »
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2016, 09:49:40 am »
I only made it to 50 seconds. Perhaps if it was done more in the style of Dr Seuss I might have persevered. It was a bit depressing.
That may even be the point - kids listen more to media than real people & information??
I felt the same, but i can see it 'talking' to my 19/23 year olds.... (they're pretty good tech-socially).
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2016, 10:11:28 am »
Its not the first time i have heard it. Still its not just kids, if anything my mother has become addicted to facebook, with rules and power struggles that are well beyond me...

If anything the healthiest online communities i ever found where IRC channels, the smaller ones, say 25 people tops, its still odd in a way, you end up knowing so much about a person who you have never met.
 

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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2016, 11:23:34 am »
I only made it to 50 seconds. Perhaps if it was done more in the style of Dr Seuss I might have persevered. It was a bit depressing.

Made it to 4:23 until I thought "Okay, yea, got the point."

Honestly this is a problem that has existed before computers were a thing. I am sure in the past the same thing was said about kids listening to music all day, or kids reading books all day.

Personally I don't hog my phone all the time, and I have NEVER in my entire LIFE seen two people sit down at a table and text each other. Nobody thinks that or does that, and the general exception for something nobody does is present, but that's just not a problem on any scale. I never stand texting on my phone (To be fair I don't own a phone with any cellular service) in the middle of the street, and a lot of what I do on my computer is learn.

Currently about 15 years of age, I like to come on to this forum to discuss cool topics I thought of, to ask a question, or to just reply to other posts. I do use my computer a lot, but that doesn't mean I am unable to do other stuff. I also tend to be quite absorbed into the hardware of things, often building computers of my own, and I even build tech from the past, I currently have a decent C64 and C128 setup, I own retro consoles, and I am building an 80486 machine pretty soon.

I'm not going to admit I go out regularly, I don't, but there is not much to do where I live. Not counting computer related activities I am too young to have a job, I currently spend most of my time learning, and I don't have many friends, online or offline because I don't tend to like people that much. I can have long, interesting conversations with many people, but I don't like making friends often unless I like the person a lot.

And honestly when you look at the big picture, people are still running our ports, building our streets, staffing our groceries, there are still people doing stuff, this isn't a billions wide epidemic, rather just some people getting a bit to attached to doing something.

This video I honestly thing is putting a bit of a dramatic side to things, like the classic, you lose your pen, you can't study, you can't pass your exams, you fail school, you get depressed, depressed = sick, sick = death, this video puts light on an existing problem, but is giving a solution on the extreme and unneeded side of things.
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2016, 12:33:55 pm »
Interesting what he has to say about the old days. When I was young, the only mobile phone was in Maxwell Smart's shoe. We never had mobile phones and we all survived. These days, parents give their kids mobile phones in case their kids are going to be abducted by some paedophile wearing a clown mask. Kids are chauffeur driven to school by their idiot parents in oversized 4WD vehicles, clogging up the roads and making a general nuisance of themselves. In my day all the kids walked to school or rode their bikes - no one was driven to school by their parents - rain, hail or shine. Not one kid in my school of 1200 kids was abducted, or died from pneumonia from getting wet on the way to school.

One thing I disagree with the bloke is conversation on public transport, especially in a foreign tongue. It is rude to speak a foreign tongue aloud in the presence of those who do not speak the language. And it is rude to use a mobile phone on public transport or in a restaurant.
 

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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2016, 12:55:46 pm »
Lol, we do not have any such school buses in central EU. Just frakin' walk to the nearest public transport bus stop, if you want somewhere.  Noone will pick you up at the door :-DD



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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2016, 01:14:35 pm »
Every generation criticize the next one, it's a given. Skirt to short, hair to long, music to loud or too much screen time. Change is hard.
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2016, 01:59:54 pm »
Every generation criticize the next one, it's a given. Skirt to short, hair to long, music to loud or too much screen time. Change is hard.

And not able to spell words correctly ;).
 

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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2016, 03:35:54 pm »
Parents don't realize that statistically your kid is far more likely to be killed when you drive them to school, then they are to be abducted by a pedo if they were to walk.

The way UK crime and death statistics are recorded doesn't allow too neat a reporting of this but:

(A) Causing or allowing the death of a child or vulnerable person - between 3 and 6 reports/charges a year. These include all the killings that follow abductions, but also severe neglect cases etc.

Registered deaths in England and Wales, 2015:

Ages 5-14 years
Deaths from assault (Essentially murder and manslaughter and would include any of (A) above) M 8, F 11
Deaths from land transport accidents (pedestrians, passengers, and cyclists) M 20 F 16
Deaths from all external causes (i.e. anything but disease) M 61 F 46
Deaths from disease M 252 F 210

(M and F are male and female respectively)

Ages 15-25 are lumped together so it's impossible to extract children from adults in those numbers, which is why I've only included the 5-14 years band.

The cheering thing is how few deaths there are from any cause in the 4-15 year age bracket - 569 in the whole year for England and Wales.
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2016, 04:03:39 pm »
I tend to think that kids these days are coddled way too much. We were "latch key" kids growing up. My brother and sister would walk to school and back when they were 7 and 9 years old. There was no bus, we lived too close. Mom didn't get home from work until 6:00pm or later, we took care of ourselves most of the time. I was 14 at the time and would often be left in charge for entire weekends.

Going back even farther, in junior high, friends would walk home from school when the weather wasn't bad, even though it was well over a mile and bus rides were available, just because it was more fun to hang together.
 

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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2016, 04:33:43 pm »
I have NEVER in my entire LIFE seen two people sit down at a table and text each other.
In college, I did that once in order to communicate with someone who (due to medical issues) couldn't speak but could read and write. Keep in mind that was before there were affordable tablets and smartphones. She carried a Panasonic laptop wherever she went.
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2016, 04:49:37 pm »
 In HS, I came up with a way to text back and forth but not wirelessly, there was no such thing. We both had Radio Shack PC-4 pocket computers plus the cassette interface add on. I discovered that you could hook the tx of one unit to the rx of the other and they would actually talk, plus there was a BASIC statement meant for storing and reading data from the tape. I put together a little program we could each run and send 1 line of text back and forth. We were using these as our calculators for physics class and the original purpose was to enable a bit of cheating on exams, but it turns out we never needed it as we both ended up with > 100% averages without once deploying our communicator setup.

 

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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2016, 07:19:11 pm »
"kids these days..." "back in my day..." "these darn millennials..." "computers are the work of the devil..." "Thomas Edison was a witch..." The younger and more advanced will always surpass the old and the old will always find a way to gripe about how things were better when everything was steam powered.
The transport problem will solve itself, we just have to let 'progress' run its course!
Interesting with the comments about ' the old days' etc, which to some extent are true, but nobody picked up on the references to global marketing, commercialisation and exploitation of younger generations - leading them to become slaves to celebrity,  brands and trends... paying for tha privilege.
The first cohort of those younger generations are now parents... thinking these standards are 'normal'...  (says he typing on his iPad!
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2016, 08:13:55 pm »
Every generation criticize the next one, it's a given. Skirt to short, hair to long, music to loud or too much screen time. Change is hard.

And not able to spell words correctly ;).
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2016, 08:42:47 pm »
I spill cheque every message.

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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2016, 08:50:22 pm »
Every generation criticize the next one, it's a given. Skirt to short, hair to long, music to loud or too much screen time. Change is hard.

And not able to spell words correctly ;).
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Spell check, not grammar check.
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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2016, 12:54:19 am »
Every generation criticize the next one, it's a given. Skirt to short, hair to long, music to loud or too much screen time. Change is hard.

And not able to spell words correctly ;).
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I spill cheque every message.

Spell check, not grammar check.

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Re: Hey parents...
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2016, 03:47:40 am »
Watch this, I came accross it after watching the OP's video on youtube - was in related videos.  Wow. :o  ???



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