Hi all.
This is my first topic in this forum.
I am designing a product for use in the industry and it needs to include a fault protected RS485 interface.
In the industry the most normal voltage for the power supplies in the machinery is 24V, but we have seen power supplies delivering higher voltages, up to 36V in some cases.
The RS485 is differential with 2 signals, "A" and "B", but what do I mean with fault protected? To be specific, I want that if a 23V to 36V source, of a power supply for example, stay attached incorrectly to A or B signals, constinuosly, there will be no any damage to the RS485 circuit. And also for -23V to -36V, if possible.
Below is my current schematic.
- SN65HVD1781 is the transceiver from Texas Instruments that can withstand commom mode voltages of -70 to +70V on A and B pins.
- TBU-CA065-200-WH is a current surge supression IC, 065 means that 650V impulse is supported, 200 means a I.trigger of 200 to 400mA (min/max, typ is 300mA). It has a typical R-series of 8.6 Ohms and maximum R-series of 9.8 Ohms.
- SMAJ36CA is to protect the TBU IC, it has a minimum breakdown voltage of 40V.
- The SM712 TVS diode, the datasheet shows that the Clamp Voltage (max) is 19V @ 1A.
- The SMAJ7.0CA TVS diode has a Maximum Clamping Voltage of 12V.
SITUATION 1. If a 23V source is connected to A or B:
(23V-19V)/9.8 Ohms = 408mA, then the TBU device would trigger.
19V is the Clamp Voltage (max) of TVS SM712 @ 1A. But in the datasheet of it is only shown that 19V is the Clamp Voltage (max) @ 1A, and it is required only 400mA to trigger the TBU device.
The datasheet of SM712 shows as the picture below, it does not show the clamping voltage below 1A.
SITUATION 2. If a power supply (+ and - wires) of 23V is directly connected between A and B, independently of the polarity:
Then the SMAJ7.0CA would trigger the TBU device.
SMAJ7.0CA has a Maximum Clamping Voltage of 12V, then (23V-12V)/19.6 Ohms (two TBUs in series) equals to 561mA, what would trigger the TBU device also.
What can you say about this? Do you think this protection will work when A and B signals get shorted continuosly to a power supply of 23V to 36V? Or even with less than 23V? What are your observations/recommendations?
Regards,
Jeferson.
DATASHEETS:
TBU Devices:
https://www.bourns.com/docs/Product-Datasheets/TBU-CA.pdfSMAJ TVS diodes:
https://www.bourns.com/docs/Product-Datasheets/SMAJ.pdfSM712 TVS diode:
https://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/electronics/datasheets/tvs_diode_arrays/littelfuse_tvs_diode_array_sm712_datasheet.pdf.pdf