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File not found - Please tell me this is a joke...
MrMobodies:
I had a few Windows Vista customers over a decade ago who thought they lost all their work.
All it turned out to be the "Libraries" features was broken and not showing their documents as they expected.
I always disabled the libraries feature and disable breadcrumbs as I find it is important to not exactly where things are on the file system.
Starting from Vista I find the search defaults don't help where they put "folder" which shows the folder name first putting the path afterwards but the folder name seems to be in the way (confuses me a little when they maybe many folders in the same name) so I change that to path.
--- Quote ---The high school students Garland works with largely haven’t encountered directory structure unless they’ve taken upper-level STEM courses :bullshit:.
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I remembered a college I walked out of 20 years ago. I wasn't happy with the curriculum and the attitude that not many people pass the course and so on. I think it might of been some NVQ 2 or 3 "computing course" and it was only 2 hours one day a week where the journey getting there took longer. The other students who decided to attend the course came to me with a lengthy helpdesk style question within the first two weeks of starting there. It was to do with modems. Some of them haven't seen a modem before and weren't shown one during their lesson but I collect stuff so I showed them some modems I got down the bootsale. Nothing complicated, an RJ11 style socket to connect to the phone line and some had another RJ11 socket to connect like an LJU adapter so you can plug a phone into it if you wanted to but the few of the older ISA ones I had in my collection did had LJU sockets on them.
When I narrowed the question down, check your connections that you plugged the telephone line in the right socket if there are two RJ11 sockets and I have seen them have symbols in the back marking them for which one is for the line and phone. They were told it was a "real life question" of a help desk helping a customer on the phone about resolving no internet connectivity. I didn't find it clear or descriptive and nothing much about the equipment to determine the above as a possibility.
They got that one right in the end which they were pleased about but a couple months later they got bored and gradually bunked it off.
That's nothing to be pleased about when learning without understanding.
tooki:
Even more unjustified bashing on young people for stupid stuff. The reason they don’t know it, if they don’t know it, is that nobody taught them. Older generations didn’t “just know it” either. Nobody knew how to use computers, so everyone was taught somehow. We incorrectly assume that by virtue of growing up with them around that kids will know how to use computers, and that’s just not true. Older people who weren’t taught also don’t know how to use them. I’ve worked as a computer tech and salesperson before, and customers who store all their files on the desktop go back to the earliest days of GUI computers.
The only reason we notice it now is because these days, using computers is absolutely inescapable; 20-30 years ago one could still choose to do things the old way.
magic:
Those "children" are engineering students, dude. Have been using computers for a decade.
--- Quote ---She asked each student where they’d saved their project. Could they be on the desktop? Perhaps in the shared drive? But over and over, she was met with confusion. “What are you talking about?” multiple students inquired. Not only did they not know where their files were saved — they didn’t understand the question.
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:-DD
If I could go back in time to strangle to death one historic figure of my choice in his crib, it wouldn't be Hitler or Trotsky but Steve Jobs.
m98:
--- Quote from: tooki on September 30, 2021, 09:00:54 pm ---Even more unjustified bashing on young people for stupid stuff. The reason they don’t know it, if they don’t know it, is that nobody taught them.
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How can you just never have been exposed to the physical concept of files and folders, even if you haven't ever heard of the virtual pendent?
Seriously, someone who doesn't know such stuff by the time they're in college should really reconsider if they have enough natural curiosity to enjoy an engineering career...
Red Squirrel:
Reminds me of my dad, he has no clue about directory structures and no matter how much I try to explain it to him he just can't figure it out. The whole concept of "where did the file go" is a mystery to him. He has a screensaver with photos that he adds to but in his mind, it only works with his camera and not his phone, because if he plugs his phone into the computer the pictures don't show up in the same place so the process of putting them in the screensaver folder is broken.
Crazy to see even young people not grasping this concept though, but it comes to show just how bad this whole "make everything cloud based" society is. They just grew up without having a second thought as to where their data is. Kind of scary.
I'm the opposite I want to know exactly where my data is. I don't like when programs start storing things like settings in some location I don't know. I want to be in full control, and make sure I am backing up the data correctly.
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