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tom66:

--- Quote from: coppercone2 on December 29, 2020, 06:48:46 am ---are you serious? it kills the life time of most devices. even a heater is running at a higher watt density and thermal cycling more often. what is that going to do to even a basic coil? Basically it causes a higher temperatre

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Halogen light bulbs actually have a longer lifespan when run near the upper end of their operating voltage curve, as the halogen cycle works better when the bulb is running a bit hotter.

I have never had a wire-based (nichrome) heater fail at the element.  If there is a failure, it is due to bearings in the motor, or the thermostat or protective fuse fails open.  The elements themselves are almost always intact.
Zero999:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 29, 2020, 03:17:23 am ---During the winter months, the heat emitted by the bulbs can be subtracted from the heating bill...  so it isn't so bad.   During summer, the days are longer and more time is spent outside.  If you do the math on it, incandescent bulbs at this geographic location are not a disaster at all.

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I use natural gas for heating, which is much cheaper than electricity, where I live. If you want to use electricity for heating, then go for a heat pump. Resistive heating, whether it's from incandescent lamps, or a heating element, is just a waste of energy.
vk6zgo:
For many years, the standard Mains voltage in Western Australia was 250v, instead of the 240v standard in other States.
Electrical & Electronic equipment designed for 240v use had no discernible reduction in life expectancy.

Back when we made incandescent lamps in Australia, 240v ones would happily operate on 250v for extended periods, again with no discernible difference in life expectancy.

The "bean counters" decided it was cheaper to import lamps from third world countries, so Australian manufacture was wound up.

The imported "240v" ones had markedly reduced life times, up to a fifth as long as the old Oz ones.
Importers knew  a "nice little earner" when they saw one, & specially imported "260v" lamps for WA at a premium price---------- they lasted just barely longer than the "240v" ones!

By now, we had been "brainwashed", so at great cost, the standard mains voltage was reduced to 240v.
The 240v & 260v lamps now lasted----------(drumroll) Just as long as they did on 250v!

Anyway, we now knew that incandescent lamps were unreliable, energy guzzling inventions of Satan (or at least Edison, in between being mean to Tesla).
The saviour was to be CFLs.

I hated the bloody things-- they either worked for a while, then faded out to unusabilitlty in slightly longer time than the life of the imported  incandescents, or in some cases, were DOA. >:(

As soon as LED lamps came on the market in quantity, I grabbed one for the lounge room.
Blow me down, if the thing didn't copy the CFLs, by starting out bright, then fading over time. :o
It was transferred to toilet light service, where it has performed well.

The next lot of LED lamps have been excellent, & CFLs have been banished from my house.

themadhippy:

--- Quote ---energy guzzling inventions of Satan (or at least Edison
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Mr swan might have an issue with that statment
coppercone2:

--- Quote from: tom66 on December 29, 2020, 09:56:08 am ---
--- Quote from: coppercone2 on December 29, 2020, 06:48:46 am ---are you serious? it kills the life time of most devices. even a heater is running at a higher watt density and thermal cycling more often. what is that going to do to even a basic coil? Basically it causes a higher temperatre

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Halogen light bulbs actually have a longer lifespan when run near the upper end of their operating voltage curve, as the halogen cycle works better when the bulb is running a bit hotter.

I have never had a wire-based (nichrome) heater fail at the element.  If there is a failure, it is due to bearings in the motor, or the thermostat or protective fuse fails open.  The elements themselves are almost always intact.

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kilns burn out all the time on the elements. and heat guns are notorious for destroying the coil

not that I have alot of experience with this, my power is stable
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