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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #75 on: May 10, 2016, 07:18:09 am »
Just don't apply your motto "Don't turn it on, take it apppaaarrrrtttt" on the in-flight entertainment system.  :-DD
I nearly did that on my last flight a week ago, given the darn thing was broken  >:(

Flaky network connection apparently, I was pleasantly surprised to see the thing was designed to handle those gracefully by switching into a "lite" offline mode where you still have basic data and environmental control and it would regularly ask you to switch back to full mode likely when connection was restored, but unfortunately while that worked it was only to fail again a couple of minutes later.

I've seen some reboot and show the standard linux startup log quite a number of times over the years. Never saw someone freeak out becasue of it though...
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #76 on: May 10, 2016, 08:07:27 am »
"Plus I am getting stuff delivered in brown paper and plastic packages, wrapped in tape, with foreign languages scrawled all over them full of bits and pieces of strange looking hardware too."

You stand a very good chance of winning the Darwin award.

Sometimes people are simply too smart for their own good.

What's the connection between getting the packages, etc and a Darwin award?

 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #77 on: May 10, 2016, 09:06:52 am »
While the economist "was up to no good." with any formula, rather than breaking the entire world econimy (they do that sometimes). I really think that common sense is not so common anymore.
But i have taken electronics into my cabin baggage. Even exposed PCB, Arduino with a bunch of shields. Every time it  was pulled for security inspection. But you know, I will open source blow up my underwear??? I was working on code while on an airplane the other flight, reviewing code on my laptop, and noone suspected that I'm going to hijack the plane or hack the on flight payment system to get a free smoothie.
So where is the line? We probably should not solder on the flight, or even dick around with electronics, because we can stab ourselves. But can we at least peacefully work?
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #78 on: May 10, 2016, 10:20:35 am »
14 people died in that attack.

The price for civil liberty.

.. or the price of being naive and politically correct.

How is that true ? Barely anyone noticed anything and those who did noticed packages and noise.
So basically it comes down to: People doing things  = not suspicious vs. "Brown" people doing the things = suspicious, or what ?
Good thing that you can always differentiate between Muslim extremists and someone with Italian heritage or anyone from southern /south eastern parts of Europe right ? Otherwise that would not only be racist but pretty much inefficient and useless (see the amount of people fitting that description).

There are reasons why politics stuff is banned on forums...
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #79 on: May 10, 2016, 12:10:23 pm »
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People doing things  = not suspicious vs. "Brown" people doing the things = suspicious

The kind of "brown" people you are talking about here are actually considered whites.

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Good thing that you can always differentiate between Muslim extremists and someone with Italian heritage or anyone from southern /south eastern parts of Europe right ?

we have seen the days when crimes were largely committed by people with italian heritage or other european heritage, and they were dealt with differentially as well. It is about fighting the crimes / hate not about fighting the ethnicity.
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2016, 12:17:12 pm »
Coming up next: Scientist burned at the stake for witchcraft

Not a scientist and not burned at the stake but...
I cannot understand when this happened, but I believe they must carry the newspaper in justice for financial compensation.
I cannot be a supporter of free press when the press is stupid (at least).
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #81 on: May 10, 2016, 01:33:46 pm »
People got a little suspicious of me because I drilled a hole in my PC-AT at work and ran a Morse code training program with headphones on as I was writing random alphanumeric characters down. That was 29 years ago. I only did it for one hour each lunchtime for 2 weeks after which I could do 14 WPM RX when passed my full call exams. These days most people are completely ignorant of ham radio and Morse Code, especially immigrant engineers and fresh Australian graduates who have absolutely no idea.

In Australia, all suspicious activity is encouraged to be reported. If I travelled on a train decoding Morse messages wearing a backpack, I would probably be detained by the authorities for questioning over suspicious activities. If it were in London, I would be shot in the head at point blank range by the Metropolitan Police and then questioned later. :scared: Well, with Cressida Dick running the show, that is.

 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #82 on: May 10, 2016, 01:37:09 pm »
Not a scientist and not burned at the stake but...
What made this incident even more wonderful, was that just a few days previously, the wonderfully satirical magazine "Private Eye" had published a cartoon on exactly this premise.

For context, there was a moral panic largely courtesy of the 'news'paper the "News of the world" (It is a newspaper in the sense of being a pile of paper with ink on it), following a particularly nasty child murder, and there had been some vigilante attacks.

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #83 on: May 10, 2016, 01:59:16 pm »
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What made this incident even more wonderful,

The similarity is the on the downside of ignorance.

However, the lady on the flight didn't take the matter into her own hands and instead approached the right authorities about her concerns.

Very different from the other folks in the guardian story.
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #84 on: May 10, 2016, 02:05:57 pm »
Not a scientist and not burned at the stake but...
What made this incident even more wonderful, was that just a few days previously, the wonderfully satirical magazine "Private Eye" had published a cartoon on exactly this premise.

For context, there was a moral panic largely courtesy of the 'news'paper the "News of the world" (It is a newspaper in the sense of being a pile of paper with ink on it), following a particularly nasty child murder, and there had been some vigilante attacks.

Regards, Dan.

Happily the News of the World is no longer a newspaper in any sense. It was axed by Rupert Murdoch in 2011 following the phone hacking scandal.
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2016, 08:59:43 am »
Hindsight is always 20/20.

Had the woman complained and the crew did nothing, and something happened on the plane... it would be all over the news about how the imbecile flight crew allowed it to happen and abrogated their duty of care and diligence.

Also, for people saying the crew were foolish for bothering to investigate - we don't know specifically what the woman said.  How are the flight crew to know her qualifications?  For all they know, she has some knowledge on the subject and recognized something troubling in the math.

And at the end of the day, the only logical process is to investigate the claim and let the people who know what they are doing handle it.  Yeah, that takes time and is a hassle, but it seems to happen very rarely so events like these continue to be "one in a million" type situations rather than everyday stuff.
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2016, 09:18:05 am »
Hindsight is always 20/20.

Had the woman complained and the crew did nothing, and something happened on the plane... it would be all over the news about how the imbecile flight crew allowed it to happen and abrogated their duty of care and diligence.

Also, for people saying the crew were foolish for bothering to investigate - we don't know specifically what the woman said.  How are the flight crew to know her qualifications?  For all they know, she has some knowledge on the subject and recognized something troubling in the math.

And at the end of the day, the only logical process is to investigate the claim and let the people who know what they are doing handle it.  Yeah, that takes time and is a hassle, but it seems to happen very rarely so events like these continue to be "one in a million" type situations rather than everyday stuff.
What I see, USA is becoming not better than Soviet Union in it's worst times. Police state, non ending propaganda on TV,  reporting your neighbors becomes something praiseworthy.
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2016, 10:59:53 am »
"What I see, USA is becoming not better than Soviet Union in it's worst times. Police state, non ending propaganda on TV,  reporting your neighbors becomes something praiseworthy."

The beauty of a free society is that no matter how idiotic, irrational or irrelevant others may think of your perception of the USA is, you still have the right to hold and voice that view.

The same right should be extend to that lady, no matter how idiotic, irrational or irrelevant you may think her concerns are.

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2016, 11:15:23 am »
"Something troubling in the math."  :palm:
I don't think anyone is questioning the womans right to be a moron.
The main point in my opinion is that the pilot should have had the sense
to realise that there was NO threat.
AFTER ALL, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS NO THREAT.

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #89 on: May 11, 2016, 05:37:33 pm »
Back in the day,my Boss was the "Broadcast Operations Manager".
We used to fly across the State on Emergency repair or Maintenance runs for remote TV & Broadcast sites.

We would often refer to the "BOM" during conversation----nobody turned a hair!

We also sent by Airfreight (often on the same flight we were on),several large "Roadcases" full of Test Gear,& one with Soldering irons,& other useful tools--this included spraycans of CRC.2.25. :o

Imagine the reaction these days!!

And don't forget to never abbreviate "Bill of Materials" in normal conversation...  :-//
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #90 on: May 11, 2016, 06:22:10 pm »
Back in the day,my Boss was the "Broadcast Operations Manager".
We used to fly across the State on Emergency repair or Maintenance runs for remote TV & Broadcast sites.

We would often refer to the "BOM" during conversation----nobody turned a hair!

We also sent by Airfreight (often on the same flight we were on),several large "Roadcases" full of Test Gear,& one with Soldering irons,& other useful tools--this included spraycans of CRC.2.25. :o

Imagine the reaction these days!!

And don't forget to never abbreviate "Bill of Materials" in normal conversation...  :-//

Hilarious:



But a little more seriously, I can understand wraper's sentiments towards the USA right now. Another Hollywood example that couldn't have put it any better how some of us might view the USA today:

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #91 on: May 13, 2016, 01:06:02 pm »
I might take my copy of The Making Of The Atomic Bomb on my next flight  ;D


I think you'd potentially cause more people discomfort by bring along this book; by the same author, believe it or not.

https://www.nytimes.com/books/99/09/19/specials/rhodes-love.html
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #92 on: May 13, 2016, 02:42:48 pm »
I might take my copy of The Making Of The Atomic Bomb on my next flight  ;D


I think you'd potentially cause more people discomfort by bring along this book; by the same author, believe it or not.

https://www.nytimes.com/books/99/09/19/specials/rhodes-love.html

That's a very British review of what sounds like a very American book.

Many citizens of the USA seem to have a generous inclination to share every detail of their lives with the general public. (This may have reached its apotheosis with the invention of social media, which has now infected every corner of the planet.)

It's perhaps not too surprising that this particular example offends the refined sensibilities of a luminary of the British literary establishment.
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #93 on: May 13, 2016, 02:47:35 pm »
Or atheist blogger(s) hacked to death by machete in a country full of the religion of peace: https://richarddawkins.net/2016/05/in-bangladesh-serial-killing-in-the-name-of-god/


Oh come on now; compared to the airline incident that or stories like it is hardly noteworthy news. Routine acts of mass murder committed by the most vile form of pious bigots imaginable aren't going to cause any lefty moral-retards to flinch, let alone go off on any unholy rants about what is truly right and wrong.

As Islamofascism is obviously an excusable response to Western interventionism for which we should all be profoundly sensitive and apologetic, the true evil here is clearly everything that is embodied in the behavior of this silly (presumably Christian, white-supremacist and Donald Trump supporting) woman who caused such (barely newsworthy) chaos as having delayed one of 30,000-odd daily American passenger flights by a few hours. Yes, Islamofascists might be butchering infidels and apostates the world over, but it's dumb American Christian women who are sending society to hell in a handbasket!

A bit strident, but on the money w.r.t. the moral retardation typical of the left:
http://quillette.com/2016/05/05/free-speech-and-islam-the-left-betrays-the-most-vulnerable/

Probably the most level-headed characterization of a typical Donald Trump supporter that I've read so far:
http://quillette.com/2016/03/26/the-rise-of-donald-trump/
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #94 on: May 13, 2016, 02:53:50 pm »
Many citizens of the USA seem to have a generous inclination to share every detail of their lives with the general public. (This may have reached its apotheosis with the invention of social media, which has now infected every corner of the planet.)


Have you ever watched an English TV show called Embarrassing Bodies ? ? ? ? ?

I'll take re-runs of The Jerry Springer Show over full-screen close-ups of your countrymen's rotten teeth, aresholes and dangly bits any day of the week, thank you very much!
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #95 on: May 13, 2016, 03:48:51 pm »
Many citizens of the USA seem to have a generous inclination to share every detail of their lives with the general public. (This may have reached its apotheosis with the invention of social media, which has now infected every corner of the planet.)


Have you ever watched an English TV show called Embarrassing Bodies ? ? ? ? ?

I'll take re-runs of The Jerry Springer Show over full-screen close-ups of your countrymen's rotten teeth, aresholes and dangly bits any day of the week, thank you very much!

These days British popular culture is as obsessed with celebrity, exhibitionism and vulgarity as that of any other Western country.

However, I am not a fan of either programme, and I suspect that neither is Martin Amis.

 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #96 on: May 13, 2016, 04:27:12 pm »
Oh come on now; compared to the airline incident that or stories like it is hardly noteworthy news. Routine acts of mass murder committed by the most vile form of pious bigots imaginable aren't going to cause any lefty moral-retards to flinch, let alone go off on any unholy rants about what is truly right and wrong.

Funny that they don't cause "lefty moral-retards to flinch" when the post you responded to linked one of them as the source and they are the only ones who call out most vile form of pious Christian, Jewish, Buddhist and, Hindu bigots for their acts terrorism too while everyone else refuses to call them terrorists or admit they are motivated by their faith.

Want to see "political correctness gone mad?" Watch Faux News when they can't avoid reporting today's Christian right wing terrorist mass shooting. Where are the moderates fighting against that sort of thing?..

FFS you can't get any more right wing than a religious bigot of any faith, so how come their actions are always the fault of left wingers and centrists?
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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #97 on: May 14, 2016, 03:44:37 am »


Faux News ...

That intentional misspelling is childish.

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #98 on: May 14, 2016, 05:50:58 am »
These days British popular culture is as obsessed with celebrity, exhibitionism and vulgarity as that of any other Western country.

While I don't claim there aren't people like that in Australia, I think the appeal of 'exhibitionism' and 'vulgarity' is far less here - and even though 'celebrity' obsession is present, I don't believe it is quite as extreme.
 

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Re: Flight delayed after passenger becomes suspicious of equation
« Reply #99 on: May 14, 2016, 08:34:51 am »
Oh come on now; compared to the airline incident that or stories like it is hardly noteworthy news. Routine acts of mass murder committed by the most vile form of pious bigots imaginable aren't going to cause any lefty moral-retards to flinch, let alone go off on any unholy rants about what is truly right and wrong.

Funny that they don't cause "lefty moral-retards to flinch" when the post you responded to linked one of them as the source and they are the only ones who call out most vile form of pious Christian, Jewish, Buddhist and, Hindu bigots for their acts terrorism too while everyone else refuses to call them terrorists or admit they are motivated by their faith.

Want to see "political correctness gone mad?" Watch Faux News when they can't avoid reporting today's Christian right wing terrorist mass shooting. Where are the moderates fighting against that sort of thing?..

FFS you can't get any more right wing than a religious bigot of any faith, so how come their actions are always the fault of left wingers and centrists?


Err, I wasn't taking aim at Dawkins and co and if you identify significantly with my outline of a "lefty moral-retard" then that, I must say, is unfortunate. However it is true that when it comes to politics in general Dawkins is a reliable buffoon, but that is an entirely different topic.

The rest of your post is just head-stuck-in-rear gibberish. You might want to pay attention to a few of the most important/repressed voices on the issues of human rights today and to the agencies that generally provide for them a free platform to speak, as opposed to those that, for purely ideological reasons, unconscionably and tirelessly work to defame, silence and ridicule them.
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