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Online RoGeorgeTopic starter

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YouTube, go home
« on: January 25, 2019, 08:16:48 pm »
The YouTube's AI must be learning about "Everything Old Is New Again:-DD
New upload from today:

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2019, 09:41:05 am »
What exactly is your question or statement?
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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2019, 03:26:39 pm »
I think it is about the Google bots learning to recycling content and doing a poor job of it and in this case starting a prize that previously expired from 2011.
 

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2019, 03:29:01 pm »
AI fail
 

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2019, 06:28:48 am »
So youtube altered the upload date of someones old video?
 

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2019, 08:13:56 am »
I've had this theory that recent technical problems with Youtube, had a common cause.
The videos that never finish uploading, missing/delayed/duplicated notifications, website outages, videos being blocked/banned by accident (youtube's own twitter account admitted to this happening), website outages.
That cause is data corruption, something is really wrong inside Youtube's storage array.
This video having it's upload date changed is proof of this, the date was invalid, so youtube put the current date in, along with assuming it's a new upload.
 

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2019, 02:19:20 pm »
I can not tell you more. Take it as silly if you want.

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2019, 03:37:23 pm »
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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2019, 04:39:34 pm »
Talking of altering old videos, I encountered something odd the other day.

I went to watch again an old video I had bookmarked, originally published in 2011. But I thought to myself "I don't remember the quality being this crappy", so I checked the resolution setting, in case I was streaming at 360p or something stupid like that. Nope, 1080. Wait, what? This video was previously not available in anything greater than 720p (presumably due to limitation of the source material), but now apparently it is available in 4K! :wtf:

As I understand it, one cannot change the entire content of a YouTube video without deleting and uploading as a new video, so don't understand what's going on there.

Perhaps YouTube are automatically 'upgrading' videos these days? Or providing facilities to users to do so? In this case, it has been a detriment rather than an enhancement. And I don't see a good reason to do so either, unless YouTube does something silly like prioritise higher-res content in search results and recommendations.
 

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2019, 09:44:05 am »
Don't know what is happening.  This video is 360p resolution, and is the only resolution available.   :-//
Using Fedora 29 w Firefox 64, viewed from EU/Ro/Buch.

Does anybody else seeing the same lame resolution?


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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2019, 11:38:15 am »
Occam's razor.

- Someone re-uploaded an old video as they probably have Patreon set to per video mode and needed some money.
- Only 360P is available because the video is a new upload and the other resolutions have not finished transcoding yet
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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2019, 12:15:13 pm »
>don't trust the autoruter
>don't trust the AI

Youtube has algorithms and can be thought of like an AI. So if you don't trust the autorouter, you should not trust the YT itself.
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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2019, 12:30:32 pm »
I've had this theory that recent technical problems with Youtube, had a common cause.
The videos that never finish uploading, missing/delayed/duplicated notifications, website outages, videos being blocked/banned by accident (youtube's own twitter account admitted to this happening), website outages.
That cause is data corruption, something is really wrong inside Youtube's storage array.
This video having it's upload date changed is proof of this, the date was invalid, so youtube put the current date in, along with assuming it's a new upload.
There were a few newly-uploaded videos I stumbled across recently where my usual choice of format (22, 1280x720 MP4) would download, but only the first ~700KB or so. Some of the other formats had the same problem, and others were fully available. I made a reminder to check them several weeks later, and everything was OK then.
 

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2019, 07:21:57 pm »
that problem i see a lot,
youtube video's often show up before all variants are transcoded - pisses me off bigtime.

i dont know if the uploader is transcoding, or utube though - it used to be that utube auto-transcoded all uploads.
maybe they are too big now and dont have enough "horses under the hood".

another problem is inserting 30min long infomercials into 3min vids!!!  |O :palm: :rant: :rant:
 

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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2019, 08:40:38 pm »
That reminds me of another problem:  Automatic downgrade the resolution of older movies, and also "overcompressing" them.

As an example, the next video was very clear when it was first published (2006).  A few years ago it was not only 'pixelated', it was made out of squares as big as a nail instead of pixels.  Now, that video is as fuzzy as the fog itself and it has a 240p resolution, but at least is playable.



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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2019, 08:57:03 pm »
Don't know what is happening.  This video is 360p resolution, and is the only resolution available.   :-//
Using Fedora 29 w Firefox 64, viewed from EU/Ro/Buch.

Does anybody else seeing the same
I checked and on my android tablet it has a bunch of resolution options up to 2160 4k
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Re: YouTube, go home
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2019, 09:23:44 pm »
Indeed, now I have for the "Laminar Flow" video a max 2160p60, too, which is an impressing 4K at 60 Hz  :-+


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