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For the Love of Radio Controlled Aircraft in the US, New Rules Possible.
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beanflying:

--- Quote from: angrybird on March 06, 2020, 04:34:28 am ---No one is flying drones over government buildings.  Again, I am talking about people in the country minding their own business!!!

The USA (and I believe most other developed nations) are  far past "nation of laws, not men".  If you come to America, you will inadvertently commit several federal "offenses" per day without even trying.  There are literally millions of laws and no one person can even comprehend a fraction of them.
The difference between the USA and other countries is that in the USA, people will actually do something about it.  This takes many forms.  You can call it "civil disobedience" when I disable the faulty emission device on my older car after it malfunctions.  You can call it the same when I rig the PCM to make the emissions inspectors think it still works and they give me a pass.  You can call it the same when people ignore these new FAA "regulations" and keep on flying their R/C stuff over their property without any internet connection or tracking hardware.  Is it really "civil disobedience" though? Or is it just rejection of tyranny?  The difference in the USA is that this "disobedience" is commonplace due to how many people have recognized the tyranny, and no enforcement team in the USA is suicidal enough to go out into the country and start enforcing these regulations.  But this isn't even my point!

I keep having to go back to my original point that I am arguing for.  In the country, people will do whatever they want, and everything will be fine.  I'll bet in Australia, even if something like this is passed, you can go out in the bush and fly your R/C aircraft without a problem and no one will bother you about it.  Everyone is freaking out about this idiotic regulation as if the massive expanse of rural land out there is just going to dissapear.  It will still be there!  I promise!!!

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Your points all rely on total and willfully ignoring of the Law because of 'reasons'. Just because you say it is ok for you does it also make it ok for a person 1 mile closer to X or one mile away from X. No it doesn't if you break the Law within the jurisdiction of that law you are conducting an Illegal Act. If you 'get away with it' is completely irrelevant.

There is Zero point in engaging further in this train of discussion as it relies on the premise of illegal behavior against any law and is clearly not on topic. Ranting about tyranny and other Laws you don't like is also off topic and if you continue extend on that the results should be known to you by now.
angrybird:
This coming from a guy on a forum where people openly endorse and participate in stealing tens of thousands of dollars of paid options from test equipment and justify it by saying "WELL IT WAS ALREADY THERE, SORT OF, AND WE DECIDED THE STEALING LAWS DON'T SEEM TO APPLY HERE PROBABLY MAYBE"

Checking, sir!  Yes!  The pot is black, sir!  Reports are that it just called a kettle the same!  Over!

I can't help you reason through this, but it is reality, and you need to stop rocking back and forth in that corner and just deal with it  ;)

Once these regulations move forward I'll post a video of me flying my old 30 scale heli in a public park, sans registration :-DD
BravoV:

--- Quote from: angrybird on March 06, 2020, 01:37:54 pm ---This coming from a guy on a forum where people openly endorse and participate in stealing tens of thousands of dollars of paid options from test equipment and justify it by saying "WELL IT WAS ALREADY THERE, SORT OF, AND WE DECIDED THE STEALING LAWS DON'T SEEM TO APPLY HERE PROBABLY MAYBE"

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The question is, do you agree or disagree with above statement ?
angrybird:
There is an obvious difference between flying your R/C helicopter over your private property against "regulation", and stealing someone else's work, I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.
I would be very unhappy if someone stole my work, but it appears that the test equipment manufacturers are tolerating it, likely because the vast majority of their revenue comes from corporate/business customers who wouldn't do this.  That doesn't change the fact that it is stealing, so when people brag about doing this, they need to be honest about it and say I STOLE IT.
Now...  For the people hacking their instruments and then selling them in that state...  I would find it quite entertaining if one of these people were prosecuted for stealing it :-DD
BravoV:

--- Quote from: angrybird on March 06, 2020, 02:01:22 pm ---There is an obvious difference between flying your R/C helicopter over your private property against "regulation", and stealing someone else's work, I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.
I would be very unhappy if someone stole my work, but it appears that the test equipment manufacturers are tolerating it, likely because the vast majority of their revenue comes from corporate/business customers who wouldn't do this.  That doesn't change the fact that it is stealing, so when people brag about doing this, they need to be honest about it and say I STOLE IT.
Now...  For the people hacking their instruments and then selling them in that state...  I would find it quite entertaining if one of these people were prosecuted for stealing it :-DD

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Still vague, what is the real specific example ? If you don't mind.
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