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Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: electrodacus on February 09, 2023, 05:38:52 pm ---Your trike is more complex than the belt driven device I demonstrate.
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Can you stop the constant diversions?

How about you tell us exactly what kind of example vehicle and its behaviour would convince you.

If you want, I can buy and build the exact belt driven model, using a Lego link chain as the belt, since Lego sprockets mesh nicely with it.  Would this convince you your understanding is incorrect, or would you find something that would let you ignore that also?

PlainName:

--- Quote ---It is not just a kinematic animation it takes into account the forces involved so that it reflects how it works in real life.
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But someone elses animation that did the same was discounted in favour of your belief. You cannot  have it both ways. No, you should not have it both ways - clearly, you are doing your best to achieve the former.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---Where is the video of your trike working ?
Your trike is more complex than the belt driven device I demonstrate.
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Jeez! You don't need a video - he tells you how to build an actual model, and what with. You could make that by tomorrow if you cared enough. It's simpler than you telling other people to build the stuff you dream up, and you could see exactly for yourself how it works. But you can't let yourself do that because you know it will work and you wouldn't be able to handle it.

cbutlera:

--- Quote from: electrodacus on February 08, 2023, 06:28:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: cbutlera on February 08, 2023, 06:08:32 pm ---...
The left wheel of your trolley is a different object to the right wheel, the stationary block and the treadmill belt are also different objects.  So your F1 and F2 cannot be viewed as the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other, and are therefore not the subject of Newton's third law as defined above.
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While you may consider the left wheel a different object from the right wheel in this particular example they are not.
The way let and right wheel are connected to each other makes them act as a single object.
This equivalent diagram to (a) may make it more visible to you

You can als imagine having this in your hands right hand applies F1 and the left hand will apply the equal and opposite force F2 else there will be no F1 so Newton's 3'rd law pair.

All this pairs in the above diagram are newton's 3'rd law pairs so F1 = F2, F3 = F4 and F5 = F6

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A pantograph is a very similar mechanism to your articulated table shown above (4 struts and 4 hinge joints), and it too is only anchored at two points.  And yet it works, it is not locked.  Why does your version of Newton's third law make the articulated table behave as a rigid object, but not the pantograph?

electrodacus:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on February 09, 2023, 06:44:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: electrodacus on February 09, 2023, 05:38:52 pm ---Your trike is more complex than the belt driven device I demonstrate.
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Can you stop the constant diversions?

How about you tell us exactly what kind of example vehicle and its behaviour would convince you.

If you want, I can buy and build the exact belt driven model, using a Lego link chain as the belt, since Lego sprockets mesh nicely with it.  Would this convince you your understanding is incorrect, or would you find something that would let you ignore that also?

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Yes this similar belt or even chain driven vehicle will convince me. But are you assuming that I faked the videos ?

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