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HuronKing:
Here's something amusing. The actual people who built the faster-than-wind device that bothers the OP so much told him he's full of crap on another forum:
https://talkrational.org/index.php/topic,24.4100.html


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Re: Direct Down Wind Faster Than The Wind
Reply #4117 – July 03, 2021, 12:25:42 AM
Quote from: electrodacus on July 02, 2021, 11:06:15 PM

--- Quote ---Please read my replay to Michael C and the one to Testy Calibrate.
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Yup - I've read those.  They're wrong too.


--- Quote ---Saying I'm wrong and not pointing where exactly is not helpful.
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Fortunately I can explain that... I'm not trying to help.  Just telling your you're wrong - because... you're wrong.

If you wanted help, you'd be asking questions - not telling us how the thing works when we designed and built it, and drove it for two world records.
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cbutlera:

--- Quote from: HuronKing on February 13, 2023, 08:15:28 am ---Here's something amusing. The actual people who built the faster-than-wind device that bothers the OP so much told him he's full of crap on another forum:
https://talkrational.org/index.php/topic,24.4100.html

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Oh, thank you for finding that page of discussion, it was priceless.  The comment “I see. Thanks for explaining.” had me rolling on the floor laughing.
pcprogrammer:
I stopped reading the posts at some point but do like to add one with a link to a video I made showing that vehicles with a different gear ratio travel different distances when getting the same force applied under the same circumstances.

electrodacus:

--- Quote from: PlainName on February 13, 2023, 07:28:50 am ---You already made the prediction but the reality doesn't agree. Even your model, complete with your fantasy stick/slip, overall moves in the 'wrong' direction. And that's your prediction with 20/20 hindsight! Hope you're not involved with TV weather forecasts.

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What prediction I made is not matching reality ?

And if we talk about predictions how about you (or anyone else) make a prediction about this situation.

Vehicle in case (a) has the output wheel (left wheel) on a slippery surface say ice while input wheel (right wheel) has excellent grip on the treadmill.
Vehicle start as stationary and the treadmill is turned ON

Question is what will happen with the vehicle ?

a) Will wheels just spin with vehicle not going anywhere.
b) Will wheels spin and vehicle will also be accelerated to the left.
c) Will wheels spin and vehicle will be accelerated to the right.
d) Will wheels not spin and vehicle be accelerated to the left.

Explain also why will wheel's spin or not speed depending on the prediction you made.
electrodacus:

--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on February 13, 2023, 10:46:22 am ---I stopped reading the posts at some point but do like to add one with a link to a video I made showing that vehicles with a different gear ratio travel different distances when getting the same force applied under the same circumstances.



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Thanks for making the video.

Of course that gear ratio is important. It will be relevant each time the stored energy is discharged as the belt or chain will pull on the pulley or sprockets asymmetrically based on the difference in size so gear ratio.

I ask you to make the same prediction as PlainName

Vehicle in case (a) has the output wheel (left wheel) on a slippery surface say ice while input wheel (right wheel) has excellent grip on the treadmill.
Vehicle start as stationary and the treadmill is turned ON

Question is what will happen with the vehicle ?

a) Will wheels just spin with vehicle not going anywhere.
b) Will wheels spin and vehicle will also be accelerated to the left.
c) Will wheels spin and vehicle will be accelerated to the right.
d) Will wheels not spin and vehicle be accelerated to the left.

Explain also why will wheel's spin or not speed depending on the prediction you made.
Try to first think of what will happens then you can do the experiment.
This should convince you that wheels can only rotate if there is energy involved and right wheel slip stick hysteresis.
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