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Forums in a nutshell
« on: April 20, 2023, 02:22:36 am »
https://ethanwiner.com/assholes.html

I’m guilty of some of this. Anyone else gonna be honest and fess up?

(Giant hint - this is MOST PEOPLE on EEVblog. Many have autism and lack self-awareness, so it’s not always clear to them, so no accusation intended)

Nice to hear it spoken clearly and not denied. People are vile online. Passports and ID will hopefully, one day, be required to post.

Personally I feel the good old days of NO anonymity, and the ever-present knowledge that if you’re abusive and nasty  in real life, you’ll get a real life smack in the jaw, tended to keep things in check.

Never underestimate the power of an upper cut to the chin of a wise guy. 😁

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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2023, 02:35:26 am »
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Personally I feel the good old days of NO anonymity, and the ever-present knowledge that if you’re abusive and nasty  in real life, you’ll get a real life smack in the jaw, tended to keep things in check.
if your so keen on NO anonymity post your name address and telephone number for us all to see
 
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2023, 02:37:04 am »
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Personally I feel the good old days of NO anonymity, and the ever-present knowledge that if you’re abusive and nasty  in real life, you’ll get a real life smack in the jaw, tended to keep things in check.
if your so keen on NO anonymity post your name address and telephone number for us all to see

That’s a superb idea! Would you also like my car reg and my cc number?

I think you have missed the point. Wow. 🤣 you openly admit you’re a bit of a loonie, and a hippy - so… yeah… carry on with that. I’ve  seen some of your posts - you’re certainly quite an unusual character. 😄
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2023, 03:47:18 am »
You want to create an identity theft nightmare just so you have a safe space?
 

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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2023, 04:14:06 am »
You want to create an identity theft nightmare just so you have a safe space?

“Safe space”?

🤣 I’m not some lunatic liberal. Keep your crazy lingo. I’m talking about a tokenised APPROVED login from a certificate authority kinda thing - like “Login with Google” etc.

You’re showing your ignorance as to how the internet works.
 

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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2023, 04:29:07 am »
If I had to log in with Google and use my real name to participate in the forum I wouldn't be here. There is waaaaay too little privacy online as it is already. It's different when everyone you interact with lives nearby, the internet is global and there are some weirdos out there.
 
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2023, 04:58:57 am »
If I had to log in with Google and use my real name to participate in the forum I wouldn't be here. There is waaaaay too little privacy online as it is already. It's different when everyone you interact with lives nearby, the internet is global and there are some weirdos out there.

There’s about 97% weirdos HERE 🤣
 
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2023, 05:16:40 am »
You’re showing your ignorance as to how the internet works.

I mean if Twitter or Facebook are anything to go by, then I don't think having a blue checkmark is going to do anything. Anonymity ain't the problem.

"But you wouldn't say that in real life" is such a tired argument made by perpetual victims.

Let's stop being intellectually dishonest for one second. If people are being nasty to you on a regular basis, it means you have shit takes and you probably don't belong in that community (or you're a masochist  :P). I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.

Wake up it's 2023. Every internet community eventually becomes some kind of hive mind circlejerk echo chamber one way or another, not that there's anything wrong with that.
 

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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2023, 03:23:22 pm »
This place (And most of the actually useful forums out there, which are all moderated both explicitly and by consensus about what is acceptable) is a calm and reasonable place compared to say sci.electronics.design back in the day, essentially unmoderated and full of the Phil Allisons of this world.

Frankly the tell for a useful forum is often the lack of txt and l33t speak, and nonsense being explicitly called out. Sometimes you find a good one with mod rules you don't agree with, but their forum their rules very much applies and I for one am not getting bent out of shape about it. 

The modern web based internet is completely gentrified compared to what it was before the eternal September, and I sometimes miss the old version, some bits of IRC are about as close as it still gets. 
 

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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2023, 03:34:44 pm »
I thought they were more supposed to be like wave guides that they reflect to direct upwards like a pillar of information, you have reflections but there is a purpose rather then a cavity resonator that just cooks food. You can argue that bad platforms don't emit anything useful and just cook the users. cassegrain waveguide horn fed antenna vs microwave oven, both have echos

you can argue something like tiktok is a microwave fed fusion reactor, it makes people go nuts after getting too much heat, the intense plasma creates short lived viruses from base elements like the harlem shake and creates exotic particles like tide pods and what not. Basically radioactive pollution
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2023, 04:01:48 pm »
https://ethanwiner.com/assholes.html

I’m guilty of some of this. Anyone else gonna be honest and fess up?

(Giant hint - this is MOST PEOPLE on EEVblog. Many have autism and lack self-awareness, so it’s not always clear to them, so no accusation intended)

Where's the data?  If you want to paint "MOST PEOPLE on EEVblog" with an 'Asshole' label, you should be able to prove it.  Some of these folks are very experienced and freely give very good advice in a very soft tone.  I don't think the mods will tolerate much of a riot on the forums.  They get very aggresive when threads go off the rails.

Personally, I find EEVblog the most sane of any forum I have ever been on and it is the only one I currently give any attention.
 
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2023, 08:39:23 pm »
https://ethanwiner.com/assholes.html

I’m guilty of some of this. Anyone else gonna be honest and fess up?

(Giant hint - this is MOST PEOPLE on EEVblog. Many have autism and lack self-awareness, so it’s not always clear to them, so no accusation intended)

Where's the data?  If you want to paint "MOST PEOPLE on EEVblog" with an 'Asshole' label, you should be able to prove it.  Some of these folks are very experienced and freely give very good advice in a very soft tone.  I don't think the mods will tolerate much of a riot on the forums.  They get very aggresive when threads go off the rails.

Personally, I find EEVblog the most sane of any forum I have ever been on and it is the only one I currently give any attention.

You don't need "proof", you need discernment.
 

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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2023, 09:34:11 pm »
So eti, hows that job search going?
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2023, 11:46:25 pm »
So eti, hows that job search going?

What an obscure message 🤣
 

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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2023, 01:00:20 am »
Any new hobby, recent hikes or runs in your area?
Seems warm enough to go outside for a bit.
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2023, 01:05:06 am »
Any new hobby, recent hikes or runs in your area?
Seems warm enough to go outside for a bit.

I’m currently halfway to Mt Everest base camp, and struggling with signal. If I don’t reply for a while, you know why.

Yes. I’m serious.
 

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2023, 01:32:27 am »
I’m currently halfway to Mt Everest base camp, and struggling with signal. If I don’t reply for a while, you know why.

Yes. I’m serious.

Did you get a job as a sherpa? Tough dude.  :-+
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2023, 01:46:08 am »

Where's the data?  If you want to paint "MOST PEOPLE on EEVblog" with an 'Asshole' label, you should be able to prove it.  Some of these folks are very experienced and freely give very good advice in a very soft tone.  I don't think the mods will tolerate much of a riot on the forums.  They get very aggresive when threads go off the rails.


This thread serves no other purpose than to go off the rails. In very much the same way Gomez Addams runs trains to enjoy the train wreck.
 
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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2023, 01:47:50 am »
I’m currently halfway to Mt Everest base camp, and struggling with signal. If I don’t reply for a while, you know why.

Yes. I’m serious.

Did you get a job as a sherpa? Tough dude.  :-+

Nope. I’m selling hot dogs to passing climbers; it’s very profitable, albeit rather a challenge keeping the grill alight.
 

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Re: Forums in a nutshell
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2023, 02:34:51 am »
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Personally I feel the good old days of NO anonymity, and the ever-present knowledge that if you’re abusive and nasty  in real life, you’ll get a real life smack in the jaw, tended to keep things in check.
if your so keen on NO anonymity post your name address and telephone number for us all to see

You will probably notice that my nickname is my ham radio callsign.
This is not only because of sheer laziness, but because it is hard to create unique nicknames.
"Blue Wombat" for instance, sounds like a "CB handle", & some others sound pretentious.

Being a ham, my name & address are not at all hard to find, but over many years, no one who wishes me any harm has ever bothered to try.

I have pointed out in this forum before, that it is perilously easy to make deadly enemies on the Internet, just by questioninng their "take" on a subject.
Some forums are worse than others---mention  "electron flow" on some "electronics" fora & the torches & pitchforks come out!

On things like Facebook, you are better off just avoiding those who sound like "the third drunk from the left" at the Pub, who consider it part of their "freedom of speech" to call people of some other group nasty names, & who, on the 'Net, unlike the Pub, have no fear of receiving "a punch in the nose" from a member of that group who takes umbrage.

Many such people have a distorted view of what was normal discourse in pre-Internet days, thinking that it was normal in society to throw abuse round.
We had a thing called "good manners", & it really did stop even total Arseholes from the worst excesses.

OK, things weren't all "Unicorns & Butterfies", but it was understood that certain comments belonged to "Down at the boozer with your mates", not publicly.
Even then, not too loud, or that "punch on the nose" might still have come your way.
 
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2023, 04:02:58 am »


Nope, I just know how to have a laugh and not take stuff too seriously. People who worry over everything and everyone… now THEY need medication😂
 

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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2023, 04:53:59 am »
Its true in some forums but I haven't found it here and this is one of the reasons that I bother to follow this group.  My motives here are pretty simple, I've spent a lifetime gaining a bit of knowledge and I'd like to help where I can.  There are a lot of smarties, this is ok, I can understand pedantics where people are buried in a topic and have a hard time understanding anyone that has a lesser level of understanding.  I forgive this because I'm basically coming here for the Pedants.  I just find a lot of profoundly unhappy people that basically need some therapy.  I'm also a HAM and find this on the ham bands as well, tune in to 75 or 80 meters some time late at night US time.  - there are just a lot of sick people out there that are making some attempt to communicate but it always seems to come out wrong.  "Seek first to understand", I don't know who said it, I'm sure sure Google can tell you in a nanosecond.  I think Dave with his light touched moderation and expertise has created something real here.  I hope it can last.
 

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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2023, 07:02:49 am »
This place (And most of the actually useful forums out there, which are all moderated both explicitly and by consensus about what is acceptable) is a calm and reasonable place compared to say sci.electronics.design back in the day, essentially unmoderated and full of the Phil Allisons of this world.

Ah, Phil, apart from him I was the top poster on aus.electronics back in the day. Yes it was a free-for-all. And the classic Rod Speed posts  :-DD
 

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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2023, 10:33:50 am »
Ah, Phil, apart from him I was the top poster on aus.electronics back in the day. Yes it was a free-for-all. And the classic Rod Speed posts  :-DD
I don't remember Rod Speed (He may have been a .aus thing), but Phil was notable, as were several others of the time. 

Very rough and tumble, between the ones pretending to have mental health issues, the ones with actual mental health issues, the trolls feeding off both the above, and the good information (Sometimes from the above), good times.
 


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