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| Black Phoenix:
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on August 23, 2020, 11:24:24 am --- Where would China's "Silicon Valley" be - i.e. where are silicon chips and other advanced components made? --- End quote --- The "Silicon Valley" for China is not a place like in the US, were California is considered the Silicon Valley but currently is mostly tech companies offices, no manufacturing right? This is what the CCP calls their "Silicon Valley" in Where is China’s Silicon Valley? But most of the production (not totally sure about this) is on the Pearl River Delta, with most companies with offices in Shenzhen (or founded in Shenzhen) and most manufacturing around it. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on August 23, 2020, 12:07:48 pm ---But most of the production (not totally sure about this) is on the Pearl River Delta, with most companies with offices in Shenzhen (or founded in Shenzhen) and most manufacturing around it. --- End quote --- The Pearl River Delta is definitely the biggest production centre, but there is a lot of production in ZheJiang, and when you sum up the production spread around a large number of smaller centres it must add up to quite a percentage of the total. I've never had a broad enough view to confirm this, but I suspect the production which needs to be fast and responsive is mostly in the Pearl Delta. There are a huge number of supply and service companies are on your doorstep, to help you change and adapt your production within days. ZheJiang has a lot more of the "roll out the same thing every day in volume for a couple of years" kind of production. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on August 23, 2020, 09:50:54 am ---Housing prices in Zhongshan is also way lower than here in Shenzhen, for the price of my current house in Shenzhen I can buy a way bigger one over there. Other kind of things also are cheaper, being food, supermarket necessities, etc. If everything goes OK, probably I will relocate too. --- End quote --- ZhongShan is a much nicer place to live than ShenZhen, too. :) --- Quote from: Black Phoenix on August 23, 2020, 09:50:54 am ---For Shenzhen I see the shift into the services industry instead of the manufacturing currently. Probably also try to mimic some of Hong Kong's model too (but I could be totally wrong in what I'm saying). --- End quote --- I don't think Shenzhen is trying to be more like Hong Kong. It is forced to be more like Hong Kong, due to its spiraling costs. Car ownership in ShenZhen has been driven a lot by ShenZhen itself being so expensive to live in, that its cheaper to buy a car and commute in. The engineers I worked with 20 years ago in ShenZhen, who stretched themselves to buy an apartment, must be feeling very comfortable these days. :) |
| janoc:
--- Quote from: coppice on August 19, 2020, 08:01:40 pm --- --- Quote from: Bud on August 19, 2020, 07:31:14 pm ---Yes but it adds weight to it when such behemoth as Foxconn admits it in clear text. --- End quote --- Foxconn has been one of the major companies moving simple assembly out of China. They've been more adventurous than some, setting up major operations in India. A location which hasn't worked out well for a lot of electronics companies. --- End quote --- Foxconn has factories even in Europe since a long time ago - e.g. in Pardubice & Kutna Hora (Czech rep. - computers, since 2000) and in Nitra (Slovakia - OLED and LCD TVs since 2010 when they took over the TV business from Sony in Slovakia) and a development/engineering center in Prague (Foxconn DRC). They are far from the stereotypical image of a "Chinese assembly sweatshop" factory today. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: janoc on August 23, 2020, 01:03:22 pm ---They are far from the stereotypical image of a "Chinese assembly sweatshop" factory today. --- End quote --- Foxconn started as a technology company making advanced interconnects, like the sockets for high pin out ICs such as Intel processors. Foxconn (Hon Hai) as a vast assembly shop is something the grew into. |
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