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Foxconn: China's days as worlds factory are done
SilverSolder:
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--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 30, 2020, 02:14:09 am ---
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--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 29, 2020, 11:24:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on August 29, 2020, 09:05:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on August 29, 2020, 11:23:06 am ---
[...] The thing that most are forgetting is that western workers don't -really- want to do manufacturing. [...]
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Which begs the question... what do Western workers -really- want to do?
It would be nice if we could all live off unearned income on the Bahamas...
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That's the thing, though. I always reckoned that being a billionaire playboy looks like a pretty good job. It's good work, if you can get it.
Too many narcissists in the western work force. Cutting edge companies don't allow facebooking so that rules out a great chunk of people for inclusion in a theoretical workforce. So we're trying to set up a factory just for the remaining few motivated worker bees and it is not viable.
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So, you want what change in policy???
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Just pointing out that wrenching jobs/factories away from Asia is not as simple as too many people think.
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I agree, and the reason why wages are so much lower in countries like India and Vietnam are that everything is cheaper, a lot cheaper. We shouldn't try to emulate them, its a race that we could never win, that nobody wins. Competition is healthy, there are lots of areas where different countries can and do compete well. We also cooperate well. We have to better take advantage of each of our strengths, in a fair way, and not lose touch with why we like to do tech stuff. The greater goal which I have to say, in no particular order, is having fun, while in no small part, pushing back the frontier of knowledge, and things like all humanity getting to the stars, and doing better by ALL the people here on Earth, stamping out hunger, for example, not just making money. When rated against some other motivators, money isnt even the strongest one. At least not in mentally healthy people.
It is a goal, certainly, but it cannot become the only goal. Money should be a tool to do good things, but not the ultimate goal, period, IMHO.
We have to recalibrate society and how we look at money to put more importance on different things, like for example, the joy of working, preserving it. Not making work a vehicle for profit extraction. For that reason, if I was a CEO (I'm nowhere even remotely close) I wouldnt say things like that. Ever. Its like rubbing dirt in the faces of all the hard working Chinese workers who have made Foxconn a success.
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You put your finger on something very significant there: the cost of living in Western countries is (too) high... which is, essentially, what makes us uncompetitive.
cdev:
We ARE competitive, though.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: cdev on September 13, 2020, 09:02:10 pm ---We ARE competitive, though.
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Only in patchy areas. Not competitive enough to quell the anger...
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