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| Sigmoid:
--- Quote from: KD0CAC John on January 24, 2014, 04:23:28 pm ---I would be happy to be convince that there are not some of these conspiracies , I put the challenge to you , but with the hateful tone it would be highly unlikely - starting off on the wrong foot . I personally try to avoid even the concept of believing in my own mind and try to use in its place understanding . Much like science vs. believing I am open to new information to calibrate my thinking vs. believing and having the blinders on and being hateful of anything that does not conform to my view . --- End quote --- I'm also open to new information, however I tend to filter that information based on my knowledge of psychology, sociology, and the source of said "new information". And well, if you think my tone was "hateful", I think you should re-examine your own psychology. The very definition of religion is a set of beliefs that are deeply integrated with one's self - thus attacking one's religion equates a deep and personal attack against the core of his being, that provokes not rational debate, but a kneejerk reflex of self-preservation. Are you sure you aren't invested in certain beliefs beyond rationality? As for the existence or nonexistence of conspiracies, yes, our world is full of conspiracies, criminal and legal. People conspire to steal business from competitors, to drive prices up or down according to their needs, to rob a bank, or to win the next election. Some of this conspiring is indeed damaging to the public good, and should be uncovered and the participants punished accordingly. However, there is no great overarching conspiracy of some great new world order or secret "powers that be". As the NSA has recently demonstrated, humans are exceptionally bad at keeping secrets, and the larger a conspiracy is, the more likely it is for its cover to be blown. The idea that there is some kind of overarching conspiracy controlling all media, education, science and governments is more improbable than the existence of an old angry Jew who made humans out of clay, or the existence of a flying spaghetti monster. As for stupidity, there is nothing new about it. What is new is that with the profit-orientation of commercial media, and the ultra-egalitarian thought of the last few decades, the stupidity of the masses, the subconscious of mankind, has bubbled up into the mainstream. This is horrible, and does have some masterminds behind it (such as programming directors of major media companies), but was driven by a mundane desire to sell more advertisements, put more (stupid) people in front of TV screens, and keep them there - instead of some kind of new world order fantasy. As for the decline in the level of school education in the US, I think its main driving force was egalitarianism and anti-authoritarianism, which are cute, happy hippie ideologies, but sometime result in pretty bad decisions. (Eg. "school should be easier so as not to make anyone feel stupid", or "children with below-average abilities should also get a sense of success from school", or "let's not torture children with too much material to be learned, they need more time to play and have fun", etc.) --- Quote from: NiHaoMike on January 24, 2014, 04:52:15 pm ---First, define "free energy". Perpetual (or nearly perpetual) motion is indeed possible (the Earth orbiting in space is one!), but you can't extract energy from it and still have perpetual motion. If you define free energy as any energy that costs nothing in itself, you actually have alternative energy. --- End quote --- Yes, you can get "free energy" from the Sun or from geothermic sources... :D That's renewable energy for you. What people normally call "free energy" though is the scams that are promoted by misguided or downright criminal inventors and businesspeople, claiming to provide unlimited energy based on some kind of new esoteric theory that usually directly contradicts (and is proudly presented as contradicting) thermodynamic principles. |
| FrankBuss:
What do you think of this patent? http://www.google.com/patents/US6532740 I guess it is possible to generate energy with the coriolis effect, but how much and what size has this machine to be? And the construction in the patent looks complicated, would it be possible to use something simpler, like Foucault's pendulum? |
| Terabyte2007:
--- Quote from: FrankBuss on January 24, 2014, 05:26:04 pm ---What do you think of this patent? http://www.google.com/patents/US6532740 I guess it is possible to generate energy with the coriolis effect, but how much and what size has this machine to be? And the construction in the patent looks complicated, would it be possible to use something simpler, like Foucault's pendulum? --- End quote --- Keep in mind, you can patent anything, it does not have to work. |
| Jon86:
The ones that make me laugh the most are the ones that harness 'wasted energy' from power lines and RF signals. I wonder if they'd notice and extra loading on the grid if someone put a few hundred thousand old fluorescents out by some pylons. |
| Terabyte2007:
--- Quote from: Jon86 on January 24, 2014, 05:38:15 pm ---The ones that make me laugh the most are the ones that harness 'wasted energy' from power lines and RF signals. I wonder if they'd notice and extra loading on the grid if someone put a few hundred thousand old fluorescents out by some pylons. --- End quote --- Ha, good one. I don't think that it would do anything to the grid load because it's not drawing power from the circuit, The EMF is just merely exciting the atoms in the gas to produce light. Might be cool to see something like that though! :) |
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