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KD0CAC John:
Sigmoid , my impression is that you are reading much more into what I am saying , your studies should make you aware that with limited knowledge of an individual and having a " knee-jurk " response to a statement in a sentence or paragraph and assuming [ remember the acronym ] .
That is very problematic in this type of interaction , where there is a lack of all the other communication functions like sight or body language , instant response / replies etc.
I agree with a portion of your statements , but then you seem to read much from your own mind to what I was saying and inferring .
As far as conspiracies , I do not have the idea of one , or there is a domination from one source - I think that comes from the mono-thinking mind , which from my experiences seems to come from religion and to me again religion is a western concept .
Again this is the wrong type of medium for me to communicate a deep subject like these so I will limit as best as I can .
As far my view of religion , it is a man made concept to cover for the lack of understanding in times of old , and has lot s of good philosophies / stories but the power over others has corrupted it , so along with modern knowledge / understanding I left it behind a long time ago after many yrs. of searching .
If that is insulting to others , that is not the intent .
My idea of insulting is the we can only insult ourselves , either by our statements / actions or accepting other peoples ideas - therein lies the problem - taking others view as our own and taking offense if we do not like other peoples views .
Which ties into the idea of mono-theistic thinking has caused so many issues over time - do not take other perspectives as offense , threat or whatever , just thats who / what they are and you can chose to use there personalities as another perspective or worldview to learn from or not , its just an attempt to understand or not .
I think there can be a danger in trying to figure out crazy , you may go nuts :)
Hopefully back to finding many good energy sources .           

Marco:
I think the overunity scams are relatively benign compared to Rossi's E-CAT ... the hoaxers who realize that they can just use gullible (or corruptible) academics to get the media to treat them with respect do far more economic damage than the "everyone is trying to suppress us" overunity nuts.

NiHaoMike:

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--- Quote from: Jon86 on January 24, 2014, 05:38:15 pm ---The ones that make me laugh the most are the ones that harness 'wasted energy' from power lines and RF signals. I wonder if they'd notice and extra loading on the grid if someone put a few hundred thousand old fluorescents out by some pylons.

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Ha, good one. I don't think that it would do anything to the grid load because it's not drawing power from the circuit, The EMF is just merely exciting the atoms in the gas to produce light. Might be cool to see something like that though! :)

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It can make for a significant load near field (that's how RFID and NFC work by altering the Q of the transmitting coil), but not far field. But you can't get very much from the far field...

IanB:

--- Quote from: Terabyte2007 on January 24, 2014, 05:44:11 pm ---I don't think that it would do anything to the grid load because it's not drawing power from the circuit, The EMF is just merely exciting the atoms in the gas to produce light.
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Consider this more carefully. The alternating electric field is doing work on the atoms in the gas to excite them and cause them to emit radiation. From the first law of thermodynamics the energy to do that work has to come from somewhere. In this case it is the power line. However minuscule it is, there is in fact an energy drain on the conductor when you hold a gas discharge tube nearby and make it light up. To make an electric lamp light up you do have to feed power into it, or you would be getting energy from nowhere--which is the subject of this thread ;)

nctnico:

--- Quote from: Jon86 on January 24, 2014, 05:38:15 pm ---The ones that make me laugh the most are the ones that harness 'wasted energy' from power lines and RF signals. I wonder if they'd notice and extra loading on the grid if someone put a few hundred thousand old fluorescents out by some pylons.

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This reminds me: a green / leftist political party from the NL coined a plan in their election campaign to put wind turbines on trains to recoup the energy!  :-DD

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