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| Terabyte2007:
--- Quote from: IanB on January 24, 2014, 07:59:59 pm --- --- Quote from: Terabyte2007 on January 24, 2014, 07:09:37 pm ---I am not saying that the energy is coming from nowhere. It is, the power lines! What I am saying is that HV power lines are emitting a fairly high level of EMF which is enough to excite the atoms in a gas tube. This energy is there all the time and is part of the loss from transmission lines. --- End quote --- There is a certain loss from power lines due to various factors, but if you make the power line do work by lighting up a bulb the loss will be increased. The power line forms a capacitor to the ground with air being the dielectric material. As you know a perfect capacitor in an AC circuit consumes no power. It is only when the capacitor is imperfect (when it has a resistive component, an equivalent series resistance, ESR) that it then has power losses. Placing a fluorescent tube in the electric field minutely increases the ESR of the line-to-ground capacitor and therefore minutely increases the power losses. Note here we are not considering electromagnetic radiation, we are considering an alternating electric field between the "plates" of a capacitor. A power line does not "emit" a field, it creates a field. It would "emit" radiation, or EMR, but at such a low frequency the emission of radiation is of extraordinarily low power. Not enough to light a bulb. --- End quote --- Yes, you are correct. I did not take into consideration the electric field in my prior post. I was focused on the radiated energy rather than the capacitively coupled electric field to ground. I would guess if you were to place enough bulbs in the field it would change the ESR but the question is how many would it take to set off alarms on the grid monitoring station? Good answer btw. :) |
| Zbig:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on January 24, 2014, 08:29:26 pm ---In the US, HVAC equipment is rated in BTU/hr or tons, so as not to confuse the average consumer. --- End quote --- That makes sense. But to this day I wonder what weird combination of smart-assery, arrogance and ignorance does it take to get you into even considering for a briefest of moments that the smart guys who designed it, measured it and then put the two figures next to each other in the freakin' spec sheet, somehow "overlooked" the fact that they accidentally designed a free energy device and now all it takes for you to claim the eternal fame and profit is to connect output to the input. Now I just cannot take anything this guy says seriously. |
| SeanB:
It might not be measurable easily but the mere act of actively using the power without having either a connection or a meter is what is used in the charge. This has been used for people using a phone to make calls that were not authorised, or even for charging a person who rented a shed without power who turned on the light inside. |
| Stonent:
I've been hearing a lot about Thorium reactors being the next big thing. I'm likely to believe that they are a real possibility because I've even seen Bill Gates talking about them, apparently they were working on them in the 1970s but the Watergate scandal happened and they lost their funding. |
| Rerouter:
If you really want some free to you power, take a clamp meter to your ground stake, mine currently has 13A flowing in to it, meaning one of my neighbors neutrals have gone open circuit, however if i where to put this through a rectifier and a boost converter i am quite sure i could get at least 100W out of it before it started adding enough of a voltage drop to make him get it investigated, |
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