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Offline Bob F.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #300 on: August 08, 2015, 07:32:42 pm »
That's okay, now that I've calmed down and am not fuming anymore, we can both sit back and enjoy the freak show.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #301 on: August 08, 2015, 07:32:58 pm »
Well the money went from my pocket for this software, and now AutoTRAX just left my computer. I hate throwing money away, but I also hate throwing time away. No more time lost with this guy.
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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #302 on: August 08, 2015, 07:35:35 pm »
Well the money went from my pocket for this software, and not AutoTRAX just left my computer. I hate throwing money away, but I also hate throwing time away. No more time lost with this guy.

Just look at it as investing in experience instead. Cheap at the price.
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #303 on: August 08, 2015, 07:40:22 pm »
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He asked my address and name privately. I send it privately to do what ever he wanted with it. Send me a free version of DeX, a bomb, a lawyer, a love letter.

Please read the words...
Odd how indignant somebody gets who offers to illegally distribute software.
I like the way how you do like to omit the details and tell the part truth without even keeping the record to what you have posted previously.

He asked my address and name privately. I send it privately to do what ever he wanted with it. Send me a free version of DeX, a bomb, a lawyer, a love letter.

But disclosing it publicly it's a NO NO.

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Please read the words...
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #304 on: August 08, 2015, 07:41:45 pm »
Yes, it was his right to publicly disclose my infos. I never told him not too. He made a terribly choice. He has to live with it.
Actually no. It works an opposite way, he had to get your agreement to disclose the data, not other way.
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Information collected by an individual cannot be disclosed to other organizations or individuals unless authorized by law or by consent of the individual

Yes I know it.

But it is like I am giving him a knife and tel him do what ever he want with it. It doesn't mean he have the right to stab someone. He doesn't understand simple things.

By his logic he never told anyone about sharing the free version of DeX.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #305 on: August 08, 2015, 07:45:40 pm »
Good explanation Alexander, now setting a trap for the poor guy wasn't to nice either, seeing he already made clear what a person he is, but

This is just for the record, because my feelings wanted to vent:

I installed Dex. I deleted it now and will never give it another thought. That was before its developer, posted private details, covered it up and lied about doing the latter two.

Now Iliya: I can say, I'm going to give you crack cocaine for free if I want. If I actually do that, it's a crime. If I give you chamomile tea instead, it's not! No matter how much you think/wish it was crack.
If you then cut my hand off, and tell people it was, because you didn't get your promised crack, it's both stupid and admitting your crime of seeking to obtain crack cocaine (and the cutting bit). Now replace crack cocaine, by crack as in software, and that's, in essence, what you did.
I'm saying, firewalker did NOT do anything wrong, let alone illegal and you went over-board. You did it because you put your heart into your program and felt someone was threatening it. But nobody did. Even if firewalker (aka. Alexander) had, as someone pointed out, two wrong do not make a right and vigilante justice is banned for a reason. If I steal from you, you may sue me, you may not cut off my hand!

You, Iliya come off as border-line delusional and paranoid. Consider taking a long vacation and working on something else for a while.
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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #306 on: August 08, 2015, 07:50:02 pm »
Yes I know it.

But it is like I am giving him a knife and tel him do what ever he want with it. It doesn't mean he have the right to stab someone. He doesn't understand simple things.

By his logic he never told anyone about sharing the free version of DeX.

Alexander.
Did you explicitly state that he can do everything with it?
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #307 on: August 08, 2015, 07:51:17 pm »
#101 how to make sure no one buys your software in the future
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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #308 on: August 08, 2015, 07:54:09 pm »
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080801192110AArjed6


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_cracking

With all due respect, perhaps you should consult a lawyer and not wikipedia or yahoo groups.
(could you also please mark the text you are quoting from yahoo, you make it look like they are your own words)
The person you are quoting wrote what you quoted 7 years ago, and the person is from the USA. The laws there are very different from Europe.


I am also not talking about (nor am I claiming) if the use/possession of cracks is illegal, or what you think is legal or illegal in your or others countries. What I am pointing at is that you call copyright infringement theft. It is not that simple.
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #309 on: August 08, 2015, 07:55:10 pm »
Yes I know it.

But it is like I am giving him a knife and tel him do what ever he want with it. It doesn't mean he have the right to stab someone. He doesn't understand simple things.

By his logic he never told anyone about sharing the free version of DeX.

Alexander.

Did you explicitly state that he can do everything with it?

No! Off curse not.

When you send such infos to someone there is a social contract (protected by law in many cases). For an address it is to send letters packages etc.
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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #310 on: August 08, 2015, 07:59:25 pm »

He asked my address and name privately. I send it privately to do what ever he wanted with it. AS IN --> Send me a free version of DeX, a bomb, a lawyer, a love letter.

But disclosing it publicly it's a NO NO.

Alexander.

He is incapable of understanding simple things.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #311 on: August 08, 2015, 08:21:23 pm »

Did you explicitly state that he can do everything with it?

No! Off curse not.

When you send such infos to someone there is a social contract (protected by law in many cases). For an address it is to send letters packages etc.
So Iliya, could you please provide some part of the message from firewalker where he allows you to do at least whatever you want? Even without mentioning disclosure (as you consider disclosure as doing anything) before you actually disclosed the personal data. Not copying the message from firewalker after the fact of disclosure already happened and in which he actually didn't agree with disclosure. You should be okay with sharing this much of data, yes? According to you firewalker agreed to disclose personal data from his massage after all, did he?
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #312 on: August 08, 2015, 10:45:26 pm »
Iliya is now banned.
Posting a users personal home address is beyond unacceptable.
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #313 on: August 08, 2015, 11:03:57 pm »
He send me a Cease and Desist Notice via PM  :-//.

He demanded a compliance email within 10 days, by me, but gave no email address.  :P :P :P

Now I can;t answer...

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #314 on: August 08, 2015, 11:16:19 pm »
Cease and desist by PM, oh, that's great. :-DD

What a plonker.
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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #315 on: August 08, 2015, 11:33:40 pm »
At user named Iliyia.

A) I woke up my lawyer. He told me that you must send me the Cease and desist order in Greek language. It's not valid otherwise.

B) There is no infringement. I have not shared, reverse engineered, edited or even installed any of the above mentioned software (I only install quality software btw).

I CAN NOT cease and desist something that isn't there or ever will be. There is NO copying and/or distribution of AutoTRAX DEX.

C) You are asking for an email, but you don;t provide an email address...


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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #316 on: August 08, 2015, 11:38:20 pm »
At user named Iliyia.

A) I woke up my lawyer. He told me that you must send me the Cease and desist order in Greek language. It's not valid otherwise.

B) There is no infringement. I have not shared, reverse engineered, edited or even installed any of the above mentioned software (I only install quality software btw).

I CAN NOT cease and desist something that isn't there or ever will be. There is NO copying and/or distribution of AutoTRAX DEX.

C) You are asking for an email, but you don;t provide an email address...


Alexander.

You forgot to add, "Please reply by mail, you already have my address".
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #317 on: August 08, 2015, 11:41:31 pm »
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He demanded a compliance email within 10 days, by me, but gave no email address.

If "he" is Iliya then you can mail, email, or call him via his web site.   I wasn't always sure who was who during this entertaining pissing contest.  I was trying to figure out what AutoTRAX could do.  Never could figure out if it could do routing.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #318 on: August 08, 2015, 11:51:26 pm »
Yes I know, but there is no reason to.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #319 on: August 09, 2015, 12:03:01 am »
To lighten up things



from

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/tesla%27s-new-snake-charger-robot/

You can make your own judgement on which end was who.
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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #320 on: August 09, 2015, 12:04:55 am »
 :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #321 on: August 09, 2015, 02:47:18 am »
I told you guys back in Feb

The guy was mad.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #322 on: August 09, 2015, 07:42:22 am »
:-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD

So that is where the 22 layer boards Vincent ( free e-) has been working on recently are installed.
 

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #323 on: August 09, 2015, 12:21:44 pm »
Today I installed the free version of DeX AutoTrax on VirtualBox. Although it was little sluggish (VM's fault) I can say:

It is better than Altium Designer, PADS, KiCad and GEDA.

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Re: Free Unlimited Version of AutoTRAX PCB Design Software
« Reply #324 on: August 09, 2015, 12:44:40 pm »
Better than Altium Designer? Consider me skeptical.
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