Travel to NZ?

[Lord of nothing]

Hi
Sorry i know its not a travel forum but here are many people from arround the world who night know something.

I have to take a lot of Medicine who include Morphine and other stuff and CBD who is sold here free w/o any Letter from the doc.

What does I need to carry with me in NZ?
I will stay just for 2-4 days longer its not possible because the risk that I get sick increase.

[Moondeck]

Not anywhere close to NZ, but i don't think any country in the world just sells morphine to you like that (well, here in Denmark you can actually get codeine as a pain relief) because of the potential abuse.

[Lord of nothing]

No the Morphine and other stuff is from my Doc and the Pharmacy.
CBD is sold here without any Medical Exam from the Doc if it contain less than 0,3% THC. (In Switzerland max. 1% THC)

[Moondeck]

Again, i am nowhere near NZ nor do i know anything about CBD, but according to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#New_Zealand you can't get it in NZ just like that.

[Avacee]

Suggest you contact the NZ embassy in Austria.
They'll be able to tell you what medicines/drugs you can and can't take into the country, any quantity restrictions and if an Austrian Doctor's Letter is sufficient authority.

Then check with the embassy of any country you'll be flying via. Even though you'll be airside during any transfer some countries have security checkpoints after deplanning before you can enter the terminal.
You don't want to be caught with drugs without a prescription/doctor's note in some of the countries you are possibly transiting through.

[Lord of nothing]

In 2017 the rules were changed so that anyone wanting to use it could go to the Health Ministry for approval. Prior to this, the only way to obtain a prescription was to seek the personal approval of the Minister of Health.

Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne said restrictions would be removed, which means a doctor will now be able to prescribe cannabidiol to patients.

Sound good when a doctor will now be able to prescribe cannabidiol to patients maybe its enough when my doc is write some letter.

Even though you'll be airside during any transfer some countries have security checkpoints after deplanning before you can enter the terminal.

sure i get a death pannelty when the cought me in saudi arabia with.

[tautech]

In 2017 the rules were changed so that anyone wanting to use it could go to the Health Ministry for approval. Prior to this, the only way to obtain a prescription was to seek the personal approval of the Minister of Health.

Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne said restrictions would be removed, which means a doctor will now be able to prescribe cannabidiol to patients.

Sound good when a doctor will now be able to prescribe cannabidiol to patients maybe its enough when my doc is write some letter.

Even though you'll be airside during any transfer some countries have security checkpoints after deplanning before you can enter the terminal.

sure i get a death pannelty when the cought me in saudi arabia with.

Not sure if this ^ has been enacted yet, just saying. 

Take Avacee's advice.

[sleemanj]

You realise we are on almost the direct opposite side of the world, right, not to rain on the parade, but even by modern standards it is a long expensive unpleasant journey (unless you are very wealthy, then it's just long), coming here for 2 or 4 days you will really see nothing, nz is a bigger more spread out country than you think.

In any case, information about bringing medicines with you is here:
http://www.customs.govt.nz/features/prohibited/imports/Pages/default.aspx?q=8&s=8

I would contact customs directly for confirmation of requirements in your case, your short stay would likely raise alarm bells.

[Lord of nothing]

  @sleemanj thx my gov linked the information in.
I saw there is no Austrian Embassy in NZ.  The next is in AUS who i get no entry permit. 

your short stay would likely raise alarm bells.

sure i read nz have good medical treatments when the drive me to the hospital for an xray the could so some blood test to. 

coming here for 2 or 4 days you will really see nothing

you (and the custom officer) want know why I fly to NZ?
a) I get no entry permit for Australia (ok that is that I not will tell the Officer)
b) and I have so much Airline Miles the end of the wold is not to faraway to get my account to 0. 
I am sick and every day increase the risk to get the hospital ant he travel insurance dont pay everything. I have 2 CC + Travel Insurance.

My gov. healt insurance should not know that i travel outside of Europe if the get know the send me to an madhouse. That would not be the first time.   
So I try anything to bring the risk down to a level who is ok for me.

EDIT:

All other medicines including herbal medicines, dietary supplements and over-the-counter medicines may be imported without the above documentation. Over the counter medicines can be imported only if they are for individual use or for a member of your immediate family. Please note that anything in your possession that might be considered as a prescription medicine or controlled drug must be declared on your incoming passenger arrival card. If in doubt, declare it.

So CBD in my case is an Herbal Paste and sold here as an Food supplement. 

The DB say: Class B1 Controlled Drug what does it mean? 
Impossible to import? Sure I could get "pure" CBD from the Pharmacy to but the is extreme expensive.

[nctnico]

You realise we are on almost the direct opposite side of the world, right, not to rain on the parade, but even by modern standards it is a long expensive unpleasant journey (unless you are very wealthy, then it's just long), coming here for 2 or 4 days you will really see nothing, nz is a bigger more spread out country than you think.

I wouldn't call the journey unpleasant when flying business class. It still is a 50 hours trip (one way) including time  between flights. I strongly advise to fly through Asia (I made a stopover in Taipei) in order to avoid flying to the US which is a major PITA. I doubt a 2 or 4 day stay is for leisure. When I went to NZ I stayed for 9 days and that was on an extensive business trip (in total 64 hours of flying in less than 2 weeks  ). Oh, and I took the red lane at the airport. After 50 hours of travelling, being upside down and my clock 12 hours off my brain isn't very clear. Let them Kiwis sort out if there is anything in my bags they don't allow into their country. It was quicker too and the Snickers from Taiwan wasn't a problem 

[Lord of nothing]

I wouldn't call the journey unpleasant when flying business class.

what else?

I strongly advise to fly through Asia

it will be etihad via. saudi arabia.

was on an extensive business trip

i am sick and this will be might my last big journey. I dont want to risk anythink so a longer stay is not that good.

[nctnico]

If money isn't a problem I'd stay much longer (2 or 3 weeks). It takes at least a day to adjust to the time difference if you have been sleeping well while on the airplane. Otherwise you'd need several days at least. Besides that there are places with a higher density of tourist attractions like Bali (Indonesia). NZ is supposed to have beautifull nature and the tower in Auckland but other than that I wouldn't know why you'd want to visit NZ. It is just like England when it comes to the people.

[Lord of nothing]

I am very sick. My health is not the best and my gov. health insurance dont allow me to travel outside of Europe. So I have to keep all risk down to a level who is ok. That mean I could to stay just a short time there.
Trust me here in Europe is so much to see and vist...
I do it "just" to burn my Miles (before the company get bankruptcy).

[Lord of nothing]

So I got an Mail:

If you are personally bringing the item in with you (i.e. if you are travelling to New Zealand and have it in your luggage) then you are allowed to bring in one month's supply of the product as long as it has been prescribed and supplied to you lawfully, and you carry documentation to prove this.

Its a little funny that Tramadol just fall under "Prescription" and CBD (a Natural Products) fulls under Drug.  ok ok oke.... 

Does anyone have some recommendation what's dramatically different is in NZ to Europe?

[mrpackethead]

Dont' bring CBD products to NZ, you will simply get caught up at the airport, and put on the next plane home.  The detection systems here are insanely good, and you'll get caught up.   If you have a ticket for onwards travel straight home, you'll get profiled.

Tramadol is most definately perscription, and Canabis products are still illegal.   ( though there are moves to change this, )..

I'm about to travel to Europe From NZ,  It will be 37 hours elapsed time from door to door..  Three flights..    URgh.

Its wondeful here down under, but 3-4 days its a long way..

[Lord of nothing]

and Canabis products are still illegal.

the E-Mail sound different:

Good morning

Thank you for your email.

If you are personally bringing the item in with you (i.e. if you are travelling to New Zealand and have it in your luggage) then you are allowed to bring in one month's supply of the product as long as it has been prescribed and supplied to you lawfully, and you carry documentation to prove this.

Please note that once you are in New Zealand you can not be sent any further supplies from other countries. You will need to establish a New Zealand doctor to talk about your options if you require a further supply while New Zealand.


If you are not personally bringing the product in to New Zealand (i.e. you are ordering it to be shipped to New Zealand by mail), any products containing any amount of CBD cannot be imported without a Licence to Import Controlled Drugs.
Licences to Import Controlled Drugs are not issued for personal consignments of controlled drugs for individuals but a New Zealand registered prescriber or a pharmaceutical wholesaler in NZ (with a Licence to Deal in Controlled drugs), could apply for an import permit to import CBD.

Please refer to the link below regarding cannabis based products

http://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/regulation-health-and-disability-system/medicines-control/prescribing-cannabis-based-products#guidelinesassess

I hope this answers your query

Kind Regards

Sound to me that I could bringe CBD Products with me when the get prescribed. I could get CBD Liquid from a Pharmacy. The get tested and contain less than 0,3% THC. Monday I get hopefully the Information what kind of Test Report the have.

It will be 37 hours elapsed time from door to door..  Three flights..    URgh.

Its wondeful here down under, but 3-4 days its a long way..

Sadly I get no permission to travel outside of europe so I have to keep any risk down. That mean not to stay longer than "necessary".

[Lord of nothing]

So my local Pharmay told me there CBD is 100% synthetic and contain 0% THC. 
Hopefully the NZ Authorises accept it as a Medical Treatment.

[hammy]

Bon voyage! Have fun on your journey! 

[Lord of nothing]

  its hard to find a flight with Airline Miles in Business.