FedEx Trucks Will Be Spying On You For the Police

[MT]

Your daily dose of Orwell 1984.

[mendip_discovery]

Another can't be arsed to watch a vid thing.

So,
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2024/06/19/fedex-police-help-cops-build-an-ai-car-surveillance-network/

Forbes has learned the shipping and business services company is using AI tools made by Flock Safety, a $4 billion car surveillance startup, to monitor its distribution and cargo facilities across the United States. As part of the deal, FedEx is providing its Flock surveillance feeds to law enforcement, an arrangement that Flock has with at least four multi-billion dollar private companies. But publicly available documents reveal that some local police departments are also sharing their Flock feeds with FedEx — a rare instance of a private company availing itself of a police surveillance apparatus.

Flock Safety seems to be working from the angle that the more it sees the better it can protect people from bad people. It is one of those things, it's an ok tool if used responsibly but as we know, it won't be.

[Bud]

Flock Safety seems to be working from the angle that the more it sees the better it can protect people children from bad people.

There, fixed it for Forbes. It's Got to be children, Forbes should know better.

[coppercone2]

so gangs can buy fedex surveillance 

of course their system won't end up being used by organized crime, or spied on by hackers for sale to organized crime and foreign governments. Finally can see whats going on daily near VIP's with fedex.

Does that car belong to a escort? lets help direct this years election 

If you study organized crime, you will learn a great deal of their power came from intelligence gathering (i.e. crooked cops, crooked valet, etc) so they can acquire the high value targets. I love how it just has no qualms about being related to sheep too.

East Germany showed us how mass surveillance lead the country to great prosperity,. Oh wait, despite the fact that it had more rats then the subway and microphones then a recording studio it was still a dangerous, destitute and corrupt piece of garbage with tons of gangs and criminal activity. You would have thought that it would be one of the safest places on earth, but it just forged a incredibly strong criminal element that basically became linked to a corrupt state.

 England's economy sure bloomed after intensively pushing cameras and other crap for 20 years too (actually the people that I talk to tell me its really bad, with a impossible cost of living and general gloomy atmosphere, like the lady that chose to work in a bakery then stay in England)   


If history is a guide, then this will probobly not help us very much.

[SiliconWizard]

Whatever the goal or means, when private companies start directly collaborating with states for security purposes, that's when things start going awry.

[coppercone2]

Whatever the goal or means, when private companies start directly collaborating with states for security purposes, that's when things start going awry.

it makes it way easier for criminals to weigh in on the legal process through the companies

[Halcyon]

This kind of technology is nothing new. ANPR has been integrated into all manner of public and private CCTV systems for many years. There are private companies that specialise in setting this kind of stuff up and aggregating data for law enforcement and security agencies.

I have personally seen the benefit of this first hand. Not so sure I trust private entities to secure the data or ensure it's used appropriately however.

In most places, once you're in a public place, all bets are off. Anyone can record information about you, including vehicle number plates, your phone's MAC addresses, your photograph etc...

[MT]

Whatever the goal or means, when private companies start directly collaborating with states for security purposes, that's when things start going awry.

As per Benito Mussolinis definitions of modern totalitarianism/fascism quote:
“Everything within the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”

[tszaboo]

I'm guessing true US dystopian style: Lock people up for thought crimes, and "ism"-s. Let people who committed violent crimes or murder go on bail to repeat the crime.

[themadhippy]

The usa,  land of the free,were homelessness is illegal and bribery is legal.

[TimFox]

For the current law about sleeping rough in UK (still in force in 2024, 200 years after original passage, in England and Wales, but repealed in Scotland) see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagrancy_Act_1824

[vk6zgo]

so gangs can buy fedex surveillance 

of course their system won't end up being used by organized crime, or spied on by hackers for sale to organized crime and foreign governments. Finally can see whats going on daily near VIP's with fedex.

Does that car belong to a escort? lets help direct this years election 

If you study organized crime, you will learn a great deal of their power came from intelligence gathering (i.e. crooked cops, crooked valet, etc) so they can acquire the high value targets. I love how it just has no qualms about being related to sheep too.

East Germany showed us how mass surveillance lead the country to great prosperity,. Oh wait, despite the fact that it had more rats then the subway and microphones then a recording studio it was still a dangerous, destitute and corrupt piece of garbage with tons of gangs and criminal activity. You would have thought that it would be one of the safest places on earth, but it just forged a incredibly strong criminal element that basically became linked to a corrupt state.

 England's economy sure bloomed after intensively pushing cameras and other crap for 20 years too (actually the people that I talk to tell me its really bad, with a impossible cost of living and general gloomy atmosphere, like the lady that chose to work in a bakery then stay in England)   


If history is a guide, then this will probobly not help us very much.

England was like that in 1971.

[themadhippy]

For the current law about sleeping rough in UK (still in force in 2024, 200 years after original passage, in England and Wales, but repealed in Scotland) see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagrancy_Act_1824

Were trying to improve on that by making it illegal just to look like you might be sleeping rough,unfortunately an election got in the way of it being passed

[SiliconWizard]

I'm guessing true US dystopian style: Lock people up for thought crimes, and "ism"-s. Let people who committed violent crimes or murder go on bail to repeat the crime.

This is already happening. And not particularly in the US.

[Kim Christensen]

The cops tried the same thing here. They had cameras on their cars that would automatically run every plate that the cop cars would encounter. This was deemed to be legal. However local legislators have forced the police to delete any data about plates found to have zero violations. ie: They are not allowed to build up a database of innocent peoples' movements.

[TomKatt]

The cops tried the same thing here. They had cameras on their cars that would automatically run every plate that the cop cars would encounter. This was deemed to be legal. However local legislators have forced the police to delete any data about plates found to have zero violations. ie: They are not allowed to build up a database of innocent peoples' movements.

At least in the US, just because the law says one thing doesn't mean the people in power won't find a way around it...  Or simply do not care - who's going to stop them?