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| Red Squirrel:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 08, 2023, 07:16:23 am --- --- Quote from: Red Squirrel on March 08, 2023, 06:07:41 am ---I think the happy medium would be to have self driving corridors. Make all highways have the infrastructure in place. Once you hit a town then you have to take over for the side streets. The infrastructure could be as simple has having posts with transponders of sort on them or even just QR codes or other subtle markers that are easy to pickup by automation. --- End quote --- I don't think that will ever happen. They all can't agree on what type of charger plug to use and how you pay for it. I have no less than half dozen different EV charging app on my phone. For self driving cars to succeed in the market they must be able to operate within existing infrastructure. --- End quote --- Yeah true, it seems companies/government etc really don't like standards and all want to do their own thing, so it would be very hard to coordinate this. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: james_s on March 08, 2023, 07:56:36 am --- --- Quote from: pcprogrammer on March 08, 2023, 05:34:17 am ---But the controversial bit in the whole thing is that due to population growth and more and more people staying or becoming single there is the need for >100000 new homes build every year. :-DD P.S. the population growth is not due to birth, but due to the in stream of asylum seekers. --- End quote --- Perhaps they should close off the border and stop allowing them to flood in? This is something that has often bothered me, all sorts of countries have people flowing in seeking refuge from other countries. I would rather help them sort out the problems in their own country whichever that may be rather than fleeing and adding to the strain of another area. --- End quote --- The European borders are locked down pretty well. And those who get in without permission, get send back to their country at some point. Europe is not like the US where people who stay long enough get a free pass. There are cases where people get send back to their original country after 10+ years. Doesn't matter if they built a life for themselves or not. Illegal is illegal. However, quite a large number of people are being let into Europe because 'we' need the workforce. There are not enough people to do all the work. Some people keep complaining about letting so many strangers in, but the numbers are still quite low relatively speaking. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 08, 2023, 07:16:23 am ---For self driving cars to succeed in the market they must be able to operate within existing infrastructure. --- End quote --- I disagree. That statement is similar to saying that BEVs should run on gasoline. Self driving cars will need specific infrastructure and that just won't be rolled out at a large scale any time soon. IIRC Waymo and Uber have been making detailed maps of parts of cities so their self driving cars can operate there. OTOH 6G mobile networks will also be usefull as a terrestrial positioning system so the problem with having a precise location in dense urban areas is likely to solve itself over time. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 08, 2023, 09:55:59 am ---I have never driven a manual car in my life, sems like an absolute waste of effort. Manual cars are pretty rare here now I think. --- End quote --- What effort? It's like walking, once you know how to do it you don't even think about the mechanical process, it's effortless. It's only when you go and drive an automatic car that it feels so incredibly boring and soul-less, you have less control, you have less engine braking, it feels slushy and mushy, less power, lower fuel economy, with an automatic you're not really driving so much as just aiming. I'm also a big fan of the mechanical simplicity of a manual gearbox. It's much smaller, lighter, simpler, there are no cooling lines or heat exchanger, no clutch packs or valve body, no electronics, it can go hundreds of thousands of miles without so much as a fluid change. When you do have to remove it for something such as to replace the clutch, it's so much easier to handle than a big bulky heavy slushbox. But like I said, vast numbers of people are in your position and have never driven a manual in their life, they don't know what they're missing. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: nctnico on March 08, 2023, 12:04:58 pm ---However, quite a large number of people are being let into Europe because 'we' need the workforce. There are not enough people to do all the work. Some people keep complaining about letting so many strangers in, but the numbers are still quite low relatively speaking. --- End quote --- Are there not enough people there to do all the work, or not enough people there willing to do the work for wages that are lower than what a native citizen expects? |
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