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| "Gas Armageddon": Energy/electricity prices in EU/UK (and how to deal with them) |
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| tom66:
Well *it is* the market, there is a shortfall of gas, which means there is a shortfall of gas-generation for electricity, so prices rise to find the new point on the supply-demand curve. That is regardless of fuel type. There is limited elasticity in the market and so prices rise sharply with any fall in generation capacity. That doesn't mean these generation companies are not profiting like mad, of course; the companies that have to buy gas to generate electricity, on the other hand, are probably not doing so well. |
| HobGoblyn:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on August 26, 2022, 02:43:58 pm ---Talk all you like about building more nuclear, filling the sahara with solar or other alternatives ,it aint gonna change anything unless its funded out the publics purse,and the energy sold to the consumers instead of via " the markets". Heres an of the wall idea for the uk goverbent ,impose a substantial export tariff on energy, either sell it at cost with an acceptable profit to the uk market,or sell it on the international markets and pay 150% export duty --- End quote --- Stop talking sense, my mind can’t take it |
| tszaboo:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on August 26, 2022, 02:43:58 pm ---Talk all you like about building more nuclear, filling the sahara with solar or other alternatives ,it aint gonna change anything unless its funded out the publics purse,and the energy sold to the consumers instead of via " the markets". Heres an of the wall idea for the uk goverbent ,impose a substantial export tariff on energy, either sell it at cost with an acceptable profit to the uk market,or sell it on the international markets and pay 150% export duty --- End quote --- Yeah, I was just seeing the other day, that Germany increased the import of Dutch gas in the past year. I mean thanks I guess? My heating bill goes up 90% this year (even without using gas) but at least Shell and others had their extra profit selling it abroad. I also sleep well, because only the North part of the country is going to sink into the ocean because of this. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Bud on August 26, 2022, 01:46:23 pm ---You will run out of salt supply much faster than sand, imho. --- End quote --- I think running out of salt is extremely unlikely. Something like 2/3 of the surface of the earth is covered in water, a majority of that containing lots of salt. |
| SiliconWizard:
So, not to derail this discussion excessively, but isn't this Great Reset finally rearing its ugly head? ::) |
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