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| "Gas Armageddon": Energy/electricity prices in EU/UK (and how to deal with them) |
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| voltsandjolts:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on August 26, 2022, 06:30:34 pm ---So, not to derail this discussion excessively, but isn't this Great Reset finally rearing its ugly head? ::) --- End quote --- Nah, this is just an energy crisis, which should hopefully give renewable energy a good boost. The Great Reset will happen when crops fail on a global scale year after year due to climate change, of which we are only just beginning to see the milder effects now. But fear not, impending disaster is more or less locked in and the Great Reset will arrive. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: madires on August 28, 2022, 04:20:26 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on August 28, 2022, 04:14:23 pm ---That is not true. Over here quite a low of people used to have electric water heaters (big drums with water) that where switched on during the night when electricity is cheaper and deliver hot water during the day. The remote control was done through modulating a signal on top of the 50Hz by the power company. This technology is from the 1960's or so. Nowadays it is no longer supported by most of the electricity suppliers because the use of these boilers has diminished. But nevertheless: the technology exists for a long time. AFAIK modulating a tone onto mains is or has been used for street lights as well. --- End quote --- We have this too for night storage heaters. However, this stuff is phased out and we're pushed to go for heat pumps. BTW, I was talking about controlling multiple loads individually. --- End quote --- Aha. The latter wasn't clear to me. IMHO controlling several loads from the side of the grid is something people will simply not accept. It takes away too much freedom / adds too much hassle. Also take into account the diversity of living conditions. Where I live, running the washing machine during the night is not done due to the noise. |
| JohanH:
My heat pump has a "smart" function so it is able to monitor prices and run when it's cheapest, but I haven't used it because we have never had really affordable night tariffs here. Now if batteries were cheaper... |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: nctnico on August 28, 2022, 07:56:14 pm ---IMHO controlling several loads from the side of the grid is something people will simply not accept. It takes away too much freedom / adds too much hassle. Also take into account the diversity of living conditions. --- End quote --- If energy supply is to get as tight as predicted for the European winter there may be no other options as a result of the short lead time. If you get the warm wet winter we have as a result of the stratosphere contamination from the Tonga eruption Europe may have dodged that bullet, at least for this winter but even another year isn't time enough to reduce energy usage enough for prices to stabilize and start a move to more efficient devices. Your only hope is for adults to start taking control and making decisions with vision. |
| tom66:
I've already bought a UPS. The government says there won't be blackouts and shortages of electricity due to the gas crisis -- so maybe I should have bought three. |
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