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"Gas Armageddon": Energy/electricity prices in EU/UK (and how to deal with them)
JohanH:
So this thread is turning into propaganda by Putin's useful idiots in west, knowing nothing about the realities living as a neighbor next to an imperialistic and fascistic country with an autocratic leader. From our perspective, people like Trump, Tucker Carlson & al are clearly bought by Russian money, and knowingly or not are spreading their propaganda in the west. Even mentioning the word "nazi" in context of Ukraine, should make all bells ring, because that is the Russian false narrative.
Can you trolls stay out of here, or moderators, please lock this thread!
Siwastaja:
--- Quote from: JohanH on August 30, 2022, 06:02:54 am ---Can you trolls stay out of here
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It's not about trolls, it's IQ101 "muh I'm a free thinker muh THE TWO SIDES OF THE COIN" useful idiots who are not intelligent enough to realize they are being used. It doesn't surprise me the slightest. The Russian propaganda is based on the principle of making really simple matters look like complex issues with many sides, and feed that bullcrap into media world-wide. Then our "free thinkers" go "OMG, there are nazis in Ukraine, too!"
The problem: the exact same propaganda can be seen for Finland, too. International press already contains news like "there are nazis in Finland", "Finland is the most racist country of Europe" etc. etc. Guess where these news are coming from? It' a process that takes years or decades.
And if/when Russia decides to try to invade Finland, then our Zero999 Free Thinkers go "OMG, there are two sides to this coin, I can confirm there are nazis in Finland, and by the way, they are the most racist country of the Europe. And by the way, I don't support the Russia's attack, BUT..." And meanwhile we are being ass-raped.
KE5FX:
--- Quote from: JohanH on August 30, 2022, 06:02:54 am ---So this thread is turning into propaganda by Putin's useful idiots in west, knowing nothing about the realities living as a neighbor next to an imperialistic and fascistic country with an autocratic leader. From our perspective, people like Trump, Tucker Carlson & al are clearly bought by Russian money, and knowingly or not are spreading their propaganda in the west. Even mentioning the word "nazi" in context of Ukraine, should make all bells ring, because that is the Russian false narrative.
Can you trolls stay out of here, or moderators, please lock this thread!
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I prefer that it remain open. Let the tankies and trolls tell us who they are. It may save time later.
Simon:
Can we keep the politics out please.
As for the UK Armagedon will start when we have to cut gas supplies as we don't have enough to generate electricity and you can't have a bit of a grid. Industries will have to shut down to save electricity.
The UK made it's worse mistake when it did not take renewables seriously. Without outside energy supplies we are nought.
JohanH:
--- Quote from: Simon on August 30, 2022, 06:50:25 am ---
The UK made it's worse mistake when it did not take renewables seriously. Without outside energy supplies we are nought.
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Yes, this was a critical mistake. Also not demanding enough insulation in houses was another (scrapped by Cameron gov 2013).
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