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| Vovk_Z:
Rusian own resources in land, minerals, etc are much-much larger than Ukrainian (and Russia positioned itself as a 'super-country'), so I don't see any reason for Putin to fight for our resources. It is just a usual imperial thing when 'an empire must expand' and 'we have to show those Ukrainians their place as our small brothers'. It was always it, hundreds of years, since the 1650s. Russia (former Moskovia) has stolen the name 'Russ' from Ukraine (former 'Kyivan Rus') and Belorussia, and then, at the Russian Empire, come up with the name 'Малороссия' for Ukraine. 'Малороссия' word meaning is a 'Small-Russia'! So, Russian people are 'great Russians' with this. If they are 'Great Russians' they definitely must spread their 'Russian world' ('русский мир') across bordering countries. (/s) |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: dietert1 on September 09, 2022, 11:25:41 am ---There is a difference between Ukraine and western countries. While Ukraine was invaded twice, in 2014 and in 2022, Nato/EU countries are were not yet. --- End quote --- FTFY |
| Vovk_Z:
--- Quote from: tautech on September 09, 2022, 11:38:59 am --- --- Quote from: dietert1 on September 09, 2022, 11:25:41 am ---There is a difference between Ukraine and western countries. While Ukraine was invaded twice, in 2014 and in 2022, Nato/EU countries are were not yet. --- End quote --- FTFY --- End quote --- And thanks to great life-saving Western help - Western countries won't know what is an invasion next years (tens of years), I'm sure now. As a Ukrainian, I can't find enough words to appreciate it. Those two things - the Ukrainian army (and the whole Ukraine united against Russia) and Western help (united against Russia) - literally saved my life and many others. And it will be that until we are united. |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: Vovk_Z on September 09, 2022, 11:50:13 am --- --- Quote from: tautech on September 09, 2022, 11:38:59 am --- --- Quote from: dietert1 on September 09, 2022, 11:25:41 am ---There is a difference between Ukraine and western countries. While Ukraine was invaded twice, in 2014 and in 2022, Nato/EU countries are were not yet. --- End quote --- FTFY --- End quote --- And thanks to great life-saving Western help - Western countries won't know what is an invasion next years (tens of years), I'm sure now. As a Ukrainian, I can't find enough words to appreciate it. Those two things - the Ukrainian army (and the whole Ukraine united against Russia) and Western help (united against Russia) - literally saved my life and many others. And it will be that until we are united. --- End quote --- From the other side of the planet we in NZ watch in disbelief of what Ukraine is going through yet are more aghast that Europe as a whole would let it happen and even NATO formed after the last world troubles stands idly by and lets powers of veto be enacted to neuter any decisions they propose. For months we have shaken our heads in disbelief that all your neighbors should stand by and watch what you have gone through and not for one minute think they might be next. So sad, really it is. :( |
| tom66:
NATO has also learned an immense amount from supporting Ukraine - the Russian military is decades behind and their strategies and tactics are dependent upon obsolete logistics. Perhaps the only advantage they have is in their anti-air systems, I seem to recall S400 is one of the most advanced in the world, S300 is not too far behind. Still, they are expensive to build (many hundreds of millions $) and many have been destroyed already. I wonder how many are left? The sanctions on components are also surely making it hard to replace them. |
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