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--- Quote from: Vovk_Z on September 09, 2022, 11:30:30 am ---Rusian own resources in land, minerals, etc are much-much larger than Ukrainian (and Russia positioned itself as a 'super-country'), so I don't see any reason for Putin to fight for our resources. It is just a usual imperial thing when 'an empire must expand' and 'we have to show those Ukrainians their place as our small brothers'. It was always it, hundreds of years, since the 1650s. Russia (former Moskovia) has stolen the name 'Russ' from Ukraine (former 'Kyivan Rus') and Belorussia, and then, at the Russian Empire, come up with the name 'Малороссия' for Ukraine. 'Малороссия' word meaning is a 'Small-Russia'! So, Russian people are 'great Russians' with this. If they are 'Great Russians' they definitely must spread their 'Russian world' ('русский мир') across bordering countries. (/s) --- End quote --- I expect control of Black Sea ports is a major strategic consideration on Putin's part, though obviously the Russian Navy is a but shadow of the Soviet one. |
| Marco:
--- Quote from: tom66 on September 09, 2022, 12:13:10 pm ---Perhaps the only advantage they have is in their anti-air systems, I seem to recall S400 is one of the most advanced in the world, S300 is not too far behind. --- End quote --- A bit of a shame then most of NATO relies on planes for offensive capabilities. EU has been pretending the INF still exists the last few years. |
| Siwastaja:
--- Quote from: Vovk_Z on September 09, 2022, 08:47:21 am --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on September 09, 2022, 08:34:01 am --- but denying Russians jobs, housing and socially stigmatising them seems very plausible. --- End quote --- That is a 100% untrue. --- End quote --- I can totally relate. It is "well known" how Finnish authorities illegally take kids of Russians into custody. There are news stories about it! It is "well known" how Finland is the "most racist" country in Europe, this is repeatedly told by our very own leaders. It is "well known" how Finns are nazis. Me and you understand where these stories originate from. Many do not. If Russia had both resources and interests (motivation, something to gain) to attack Finland, they would do it, but also people like Zero999 would discuss on the internet how "there is usually some truth in the propaganda, and look these Western news articles that describe how Finland indeed has been most racist country in the EU, and there is some evidence of Finnish authorities taking kids of russians into custody..." While in reality, it would be total bullshit, well conditioned over years or decades. This works because the assumption of "there is some grain of truth in every statement" is usually a good working hypothesis, because it drives you to find more information. It becomes a problem when A) you are satisfied with the idea of there being some truth alone, without doing your homework really well, B) when the propagandist understands this assumption and utilizes it to their advantage. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on September 09, 2022, 03:04:29 pm --- --- Quote from: Vovk_Z on September 09, 2022, 08:47:21 am --- --- Quote from: Zero999 on September 09, 2022, 08:34:01 am --- but denying Russians jobs, housing and socially stigmatising them seems very plausible. --- End quote --- That is a 100% untrue. --- End quote --- I can totally relate. It is "well known" how Finnish authorities illegally take kids of Russians into custody. There are news stories about it! It is "well known" how Finland is the "most racist" country in Europe, this is repeatedly told by our very own leaders. It is "well known" how Finns are nazis. Me and you understand where these stories originate from. Many do not. If Russia had both resources and interests (motivation, something to gain) to attack Finland, they would do it, but also people like Zero999 would discuss on the internet how "there is usually some truth in the propaganda, and look these Western news articles that describe how Finland indeed has been most racist country in the EU, and there is some evidence of Finnish authorities taking kids of russians into custody..." While in reality, it would be total bullshit, well conditioned over years or decades. --- End quote --- We must never forget that Belgians eat babies. We know this must be true because the British media told us it was true, with none of them dissenting. |
| wraper:
So I received an electricity bill for last month. EUR 198.50 for puny 293 kWh, 2x more than for July for a bit less energy spent and about 5x more than last year. Wonderful, everything just wonderful. I guess by winter electricity + heating will be well above average household income in less wealthy regions of Latvia. And I feel real bad for pensioners, especially lonely ones as their pension is about EUR 370 in average and much less for unlucky ones. |
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