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jonpaul:
Bonjour

As always, the root issue is beurocrats and governments attempting to predict and control everything.

The control of electric power generation and distribution has been designed and legislated by laymen  and Socialist politicians in Washington DC, London, Brussels, Strasbourg.

These Mandarins with Sinécures have

1. Shut nuclear power plants
2. stopped oil exploration, coal mining
3. made a deal with Putin's fascist Russian gas
4. refused to build infrastructure ( LNG terminals, pipeline, refineries)
5. Decided to destroy then Wests energy system
6. Huge taxpayers subsidy for wind, solar, and other unreliable and costly schemes

Even if we in the West stop all economy and energy use now, the Enormous Chinese and Indian pollution will still continue.

Just the ramblings of an old retired Electrical Engineer.

Jon
BravoV:

--- Quote from: jonpaul on September 13, 2022, 06:33:08 am ---Even if we in the West stop all economy and energy use now, the Enormous Chinese and Indian pollution will still continue.

--- End quote ---

Agree Jon, the West never ever polluted the world, even the West started industrialization centuries ago.

Those low life China and Indian are the pest of the world, if the West suffered because of energy crisis and affecting their economy, those damn Chinese and Indians must suffer too, and stop their economy, and in the name of solidarity and follow the "Western greatness" to stop buying the super evil Russia's energy, reduce polluting the world, and at the same time punish Russia and bring them to kneel to the great Western civilization.

Happy ending.  :-DD
wraper:

--- Quote from: BravoV on September 13, 2022, 07:01:03 am ---
--- Quote from: jonpaul on September 13, 2022, 06:33:08 am ---Even if we in the West stop all economy and energy use now, the Enormous Chinese and Indian pollution will still continue.

--- End quote ---

Agree Jon, the West never ever polluted the world, even the West started industrialization centuries ago.

Those low life China and Indian are the pest of the world, if the West suffered because of energy crisis and affecting their economy, those damn Chinese and Indians must suffer too, and stop their economy, and in the name of solidarity and follow the "Western greatness" to stop buying the super evil Russia's energy, reduce polluting the world, and at the same time punish Russia and bring them to kneel to the great Western civilization.

Happy ending.  :-DD

--- End quote ---
I would say it differently. If one part of the world ceases production of something to reduce pollution, production and pollution will simply move to another place.
BravoV:

--- Quote from: wraper on September 13, 2022, 07:15:21 am ---
--- Quote from: BravoV on September 13, 2022, 07:01:03 am ---
--- Quote from: jonpaul on September 13, 2022, 06:33:08 am ---Even if we in the West stop all economy and energy use now, the Enormous Chinese and Indian pollution will still continue.

--- End quote ---

Agree Jon, the West never ever polluted the world, even the West started industrialization centuries ago.

Those low life China and Indian are the pest of the world, if the West suffered because of energy crisis and affecting their economy, those damn Chinese and Indians must suffer too, and stop their economy, and in the name of solidarity and follow the "Western greatness" to stop buying the super evil Russia's energy, reduce polluting the world, and at the same time punish Russia and bring them to kneel to the great Western civilization.

Happy ending.  :-DD

--- End quote ---
I would say it differently. If one part of the world ceases production of something to reduce pollution, production and pollution will simply move to another place.

--- End quote ---

Some may say that you've been brainwashed and consuming too much bad propaganda by the evil Russia, or even worst the super uber evil China CCP narratives.
jonpaul:
Every government intervention has been a catastrophe...

Wars,  recession, depression, currencies, energy, education....

One sees the Enormous hypocrisy of the elites in the Capitols, jetting about to conferences, vacations, political junkets, while admonishing we poor peons to use less energy and buy expensive and defective electric cars.....

"Let em eat cake" ( supposedly said by Marie Antoinette,  in response to the famines and bread shortages in 1790, just before the French revolution)

From an optimist in the nuclear age

Jon
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