General > General Technical Chat

"Gas Armageddon": Energy/electricity prices in EU/UK (and how to deal with them)

<< < (114/139) > >>

jonovid:
IMO We have had 70 years of prosperity, now it seems the tide is going out.
does anyone remember what happened in 1915 and then again in 1939, well its that time again.
when young people volunteer to die for something they know nothing about.
when someone will say IT will be over by Christmas. But most of us know its not true.
the good news is Japan is still here.  and so is Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
this is survivable but maybe not our electronics.  Lest we forget!

langwadt:

--- Quote from: jonovid on September 13, 2022, 11:25:32 am ---IMO We have had 70 years of prosperity, now it seems the tide is going out.
does anyone remember what happened in 1915 and then again in 1939, well its that time again.
when young people volunteer to die for something they know nothing about.
when someone will say IT will be over by Christmas. But most of us know its not true.
the good news is Japan is still here.  and so is Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
this is survivable but maybe not our electronics.  Lest we forget!

--- End quote ---

is the current situation really much worse than the oil crisis and recession of the early 70's and 80's ?

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: jonovid on September 13, 2022, 11:25:32 am ---IMO We have had 70 years of prosperity, now it seems the tide is going out.
does anyone remember what happened in 1915 and then again in 1939, well its that time again.
when young people volunteer to die for something they know nothing about.
when someone will say IT will be over by Christmas. But most of us know its not true.
the good news is Japan is still here.  and so is Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
this is survivable but maybe not our electronics.  Lest we forget!

--- End quote ---

Yeah, I kind of worry about this too sometimes...   is history repeating itself, are we being spurred into a world cataclysm by millions of armchair generals that have never been more than 25 miles away from where they were born, but are nevertheless all 100% certain their opinion is the right one and are more than willing to sacrifice your sons and daughters to prove the point?

Cooler heads need to prevail, and it's worth thinking about as you go about your daily business...

tom66:
When 'cooler heads must prevail', what outcome is there for Ukraine?

Given Ukraine's recent tactical success in taking back Kharkiv and Kherson, I wonder if the Russians will be willing to return to the table.

But will Ukraine concede anything?  Previously they have said no territory is negotiable, but it is hard to see how the Russians will accept anything less than a legally-sanctioned annex of Crimea and probably part if not all of the contested Donbas region - which I am sure is a red like for the Ukranians.

Like all good negotiations, the best result is one where either side is a bit disappointed by the outcome.

Marco:

--- Quote from: tszaboo ---Maybe people can give up the third cars in their family, and set the thermostat 1 degree lower, and put on a jumper during the winter. And buy every other new iphone, not every single one. I hope they will make support groups for us. Meanwhile everyone with the roof is talking about solar panels. What has the world come to, we have to pollute our pristine roofs with this pest.
--- End quote ---
The problem isn't people like us, the problem is for people with minimal income in the low income EU countries.

People on welfare here have more income than average workers in Latvia, normally cost of living compensates but energy is dominating and equalizing between richer and poorer countries. They have more wood, but that doesn't help a pensioner without a fireplace.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page

There was an error while thanking
Thanking...
Go to full version
Powered by SMFPacks Advanced Attachments Uploader Mod