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| "Gas Armageddon": Energy/electricity prices in EU/UK (and how to deal with them) |
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| themadhippy:
--- Quote ---The strategic storage tanks are almost full, everyone chillax. Except UK, because they don't want to do the right thing --- End quote --- we've done the right think,we've taken delivery of lpg and pipeline gas and sold it to europe to help fill there reserves,we'll then buy it back at an inflated price come winter |
| tom66:
Russia may want and demand a greater sphere of influence, but the only thing it has to offer the West that it really desperately needs is oil and gas. This is going to wane as the EU reverses two decades of disastrous energy policy. And then Russia will be left knocking on the door to China to sell its energy, good luck with that. |
| langwadt:
--- Quote from: imo on September 13, 2022, 04:06:01 pm --- ".. the collapse of the Soviet Union the biggest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20tieth century.." [Putin April 29th, 2005], moreover, they still consider the West guilty for the economic turmoil there in 90ties.. --- End quote --- well in way he was right it was a catastrophe, the result was several wars, mass poverty and oligarcs stealing everything of value afaiu in the same speech he talked about building "an effective state system within the current national borders" with democracy and fighting corruption I wonder what changed? |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: imo on September 13, 2022, 09:05:47 am ---It is a good move, imho, the EU decided to eliminate the dependency on Russian energy (gas, oil, nuclear), which dependency, btw. has been criticized for at least 2 decades by many politicians, but EU was lazy and childish naive in that regard. Also it is clear that the free market with energies in EU must be regulated during this transition period, so hopefully EU does the necessary steps now. Also Germany and other big players should resume all their nuclear power-plants during that transition period (let say for next 10y), also the coal should come again into the game during that period. The naive green EU should wait for a while.. That transition costs us and it will cost us even more in EU, but at least the next generation will be happy that we finally undertook this painful step.. --- End quote --- The problem is you are not supposed to eliminate dependency by destroying your country in the process. The only way EU can live without of Russian gas in short term is shutting down a huge number of factories. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: themadhippy on September 13, 2022, 03:50:26 pm --- --- Quote ---I'm not a fan of the overall implementation --- End quote --- whats wrong with the average tax payer paying to line the pockets of the energy companys shareholders?its what the majority voted for after all. --- End quote --- The problem with the "this is what you voted for" argument is that typically when voting there are two, maybe a few more buckets to choose from and every bucket will contain some number of desirable items and some quantity of shit. The only way to avoid voting for a bucket of shit is by not voting at all. The best you can do is aim for the best apparent ratio of good stuff to shit and hope for the best. |
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