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| IconicPCB:
and everybody ignores alleged deaths of some 15000 Ukrainian citizens in Donbas slaughtered by the Ukrainian government in the past seven to eight years way before Russia went into U sector and kraine. These people were murdered by the followers of Bandera often times as members of the Right Sector and Azov brigades with the blessing of Kiev government. |
| Vovk_Z:
--- Quote from: IconicPCB on September 17, 2022, 03:37:08 am ---Whilst official documentation points to the Presidium, a more probable explanation may be found https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publication/why-did-russia-give-away-crimea-sixty-years-ago implicating Khrushchev to his gills. --- End quote --- Crimea was very stagnating region with soviets (within Russian Soviet Republic inside USSR), and especially bad it become when Stalin deported Crimean Tatars from Crimea in 1944. A lot of russians were invited to former Tatars homes. But russians showed themselves as bad owners of that soil. At the same time Ukrainians were well known as good at agriculture and good masters. So, transmitting a Crimea from Russian Soviet Republic to Ukraine Soviet Republic government (inside USSR) was just a good reasonable practical decision. And it was proved fine (Soviets made not only bad decisions but sometimes they did something reasonable too). |
| Vovk_Z:
--- Quote from: IconicPCB on September 17, 2022, 10:51:53 am ---These people were murdered by the followers of Bandera often times as members of the Right Sector and Azov brigades with the blessing of Kiev government. --- End quote --- This is misinformation and russian terrorist state propaganda. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: IconicPCB on September 17, 2022, 10:51:53 am ---and everybody ignores alleged deaths of some 15000 Ukrainian citizens in Donbas slaughtered by the Ukrainian government in the past seven to eight years way before Russia went into U sector and kraine. --- End quote --- Nobody is ignoring that but the big question is: who told those people to take up arms against their own government? If you start a civil war against the government, it is to be expected that there will be casualties. |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: nctnico on September 17, 2022, 12:28:15 pm --- --- Quote from: IconicPCB on September 17, 2022, 10:51:53 am ---and everybody ignores alleged deaths of some 15000 Ukrainian citizens in Donbas slaughtered by the Ukrainian government in the past seven to eight years way before Russia went into U sector and kraine. --- End quote --- Nobody is ignoring that but the big question is: who told those people to take up arms against their own government? If you start a civil war against the government, it is to be expected that there will be casualties. --- End quote --- The problem is that it wasn't the government they elected. It was government led by ultra nationalists which came in power in coup d'etat. |
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