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vad:

--- Quote from: wraper on September 17, 2022, 09:06:30 pm ---Or it happens in exactly opposite way, ensures prolonged stalemate war and maximizes casualties. Sure it will weaken Russia a lot. However the price of humans lives in Ukraine would be devastating.

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This depends on West’s willingness to provide necessary weapons.

Ukrainian Armed Forces need heavy armor, such as main battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, to conduct offensive operations to liberate its land from Russian occupation forces. 7 months since the invasion started, neither the US, nor UK, nor Germany are willing to supply heavy armor.

With such inadequate support from the West, there is risk that the war will last for several years, with heavy  toll on both sides.

Increasing security assistance to Ukraine, will expedite downfall of Russia’s fascists regime, and will  save many thousands of lives.
themadhippy:

--- Quote ---there is risk that the war will last for several years,
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excellent news for those with shares in the arms industry


--- Quote ---Increasing security assistance to Ukraine, will expedite downfall of Russia
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or pull the west into the conflict
Vovk_Z:

--- Quote from: wraper on September 17, 2022, 03:16:16 pm --- and massacre in Odessa
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That wasn't a 'massacre'. That was a tragedy fire caused by russian terrorist-separatist forces. They thought that Odessa is 'a Russian city' because it is 100% russian speaking. So russians wanted to 'protect' it by occupation (as usual).
You want to present to us that tragic accident as a system. But not. There wasn't anything similar pre- and after that.
vad:

--- Quote from: IconicPCB on September 17, 2022, 09:22:05 pm ---Implement the Minsk agreement.

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This agreement died on 24 February 2022. Instead:

1) Send Russian troops home
2) Prosecute war criminals and warmongers
3) Pay for the damages
vad:

--- Quote from: themadhippy on September 17, 2022, 10:21:59 pm ---or pull the west into the conflict

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Genius! Assuming you live in NATO country, are you personally going to defend Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, when Putin is done with Ukraine and gets his hands on 20 million conscripts?

Edit: would not it be better to destroy Putin’s regime now, when it is weak, using hands and lives of Ukrainian military, equipping them with necessary weapons?
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