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jpanhalt:

--- Quote from: eugene on March 13, 2022, 11:20:03 pm ---On the other hand, I don't understand the passion that some farmers seem have for this. Can't they just get out of bed whenever they want? The livestock and crops don't care what the clock says, why do the farmers care?

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Actually farmers were against DST.  Indiana used to stay on standard ("slow") time.  One of several citations on the subject:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2015/03/06/five-myths-about-daylight-saving-time/

I don't know a farmer who objects to getting up at 4AM GMT+5 (i.e., Eastern US time) regardless of the clock.  And as pointed out, crops and cows don't read the clock.  They read the Sun.  Myself?  I naturally awake between 4 and 4:30 AM local time and adjust.  That has been my routine most of my professional life.  It's not worth going to war about, but DST is just silly.

What really bugs me is that clothing stores all open at 10AM.  I hate shopping so late, yet on the rare occasions I go to department stores at 10AM, I am usually the only one there.  Why can't they open at 7 or 8 AM like real businesses? :)

MK14:

--- Quote from: jpanhalt on March 14, 2022, 12:21:50 am ---What really bugs me is that clothing stores all open at 10AM.  I hate shopping so late, yet on the rare occasions I go to department stores at 10AM, I am usually the only one there.  Why can't they open at 7 or 8 AM like real businesses? :)

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I think you have answered your own question. If the clothing stores, are relatively empty/lacking customers at such early times (10AM), then I'm not surprised, they don't want to open at even earlier times, if it would NOT be profitable for them. Since they would be paying staff and other running costs, without getting a profitable return from customers, at such early times.
Presumably, there are reasons why people tend to shop for cloths relatively late in the day, compared to other items. 

eugene:
If we're complaining about clothing stores, why the hell do they change seasonal clothing months before the seasons themselves? If you want summer cloths you need to buy it in the spring. By late summer they're selling only cloths suitable for cold weather.

I know I'm just a grumpy old man, but I generally don't plan cloths shopping months in advance. Just like groceries and electronic components, I think about buying them when I need them.


--- Quote ---Actually farmers were against DST.  Indiana used to stay on standard ("slow") time.
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Right, and I don't understand why farmers have traditionally been so passionate about the subject. DST can be inconvenient for people that need to interact with other people. Even just going to an office job can be a problem if it means losing an hours sleep. But the farmers? What do they have to complain about? Even their hired help can just get up an hour earlier/later -- according to the clock; really they're still getting up at the same time.

Ed.Kloonk:
It fades the curtains!

Stray Electron:

--- Quote from: ataradov on March 13, 2022, 07:44:26 pm ---I don't understand. Currently there are only two states that don't change time - Arizona and Hawaii. A lot of states want to stop this stupidity, but it looks like it is constantly stalling for no obvious to me reason. It is a no-brainer that monotonic time is better.

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  Most states and most of the people in the US want to drop this nonsense but it was mandated by Congress back in the 1970s as an "energy saving measure" so only they can stop it.  OTOH Biden could stop it with an Executive Order if he wished but let's not even talk about that!

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