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Offline Rick LawTopic starter

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Re: Damn, I lost an hour and the run didn't finish...
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2022, 08:35:09 pm »
In essence the same as a period close, month close, new year. Things that happen at different times across the world since many years.
If we haven't managed to solve that predictable riddle in an organisation by now, what is the readiness for unpredictable events?

But I think you would agree that "NOT having the problem at all" is superior to "having a problem with known solutions".  That is why in my OP, I referred to it as a "wasting people's energy" (I notice I had a typo in the OP thus not getting my message across!  I wrote "waiting people's energy" instead of "wasting people's energy".  I corrected it just prior to this post).

In my pre-retirement days with responsibility of an IT department with international access, it was a real headache.    Besides scheduling meetings, conference calls, etc., on "short nights" we needed different batch processes to ensure proper up-time for domestic as well as not non-domestic business hours.

Tools were slower than and less powerful back then.  Even mass emails were batched for overnight because of bandwidth constrains then.  While we have better faster tools today, but knowing nature of people, I am confident people correspondingly expanded their expectations -- the available night hours would still be too short to do all the "likes to do's" and even less with "short nights."
 

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Re: Damn, I lost an hour and the run didn't finish...
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2022, 09:05:20 pm »
I love all the talk about a child's second decade, sleep patterns, rhythms etc. In those articles, can we point to any effect of caffeine/energy drinks?

It always comes back to food, namely shitty food. And the effect gets worse as you get older.

Dude.. there is a mountain of evidence here for years, its not caused by energy drinks. If anything kids will use energy drinks more with an earlier start because they are sleep deprived.
Of course poor food will make it worse, but that is not the cause.

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That adolescents have a biologically driven delay in their sleep-wake schedules is uncontested, and in fact, it is observed across cultures, including those with limited access to technology.

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reinforcing that the early school starting time at morning is a strong temporal challenge for teenagers, having negative impacts on cognition and academic performance.

https://theconversation.com/the-biological-reason-why-its-so-hard-for-teenagers-to-wake-up-early-for-school-88802
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5726563/
https://www.rand.org/blog/2020/01/teens-are-driven-to-stay-up-late-but-why.html
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33826994/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15866859/
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Re: Damn, I lost an hour and the run didn't finish...
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2022, 11:03:41 pm »

Dude.. there is a mountain of evidence here for years, its not caused by energy drinks. If anything kids will use energy drinks more with an earlier start because they are sleep deprived.
Of course poor food will make it worse, but that is not the cause.

Running on sugar not carbs. Just be wary of the mountain of evidence generated by people who don't frontline teach. At the end of the day, the numbers are still slipping.

Anyway, I wonder if the traditional approach to education is toast except of course for the densely populated areas. I'm more interested in what the last few decades in general and the last few years in particular has done for home schooling and for small community learning.

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Re: Damn, I lost an hour and the run didn't finish...
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2022, 05:49:56 am »
Ask, and you shall receive...

The Hill magazine (as in Capital Hill USA) report March 15 2022:"Senate unanimously approves making daylight saving time permanent ..."
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/598314-senate-unanimously-approves-making-daylight-saving-time-permanent

May be some politicians read EEVBLOG...  may be.
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Re: Damn, I lost an hour and the run didn't finish...
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2022, 06:09:31 am »
Good grief.
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Re: Damn, I lost an hour and the run didn't finish...
« Reply #30 on: March 16, 2022, 02:26:26 pm »
Ed, are you generally opposed to any improvement in the education of our children, or is there something about this particular topic that gets your fur up? It seems as though you just don't want things to be better for the next generation than they were for the last. It's perplexing...

Or are you just so crusty and miserable that anything new is impossible to bear, even if it happens to other people and not you?
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Re: Damn, I lost an hour and the run didn't finish...
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2022, 03:28:03 pm »
Ed, are you generally opposed to any improvement in the education of our children, or is there something about this particular topic that gets your fur up? It seems as though you just don't want things to be better for the next generation than they were for the last. It's perplexing...

Lemme try an make things a bit simpler for you.

Opposed to any improvement in the education of our children? Of course not. I have stated that grades are slipping despite 'improvements' that clearly are not working.

The relentless waffle and reports from special interest groups than aim to futz with the system to justify all their chair polishing results in a contribution that is more often than not founded upon utter nonsense or statistics. It's a concept even your own sig suggests.

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Or are you just so crusty and miserable that anything new is impossible to bear, even if it happens to other people and not you?

But the thing is it's not new. People influencing school policies never address the grades and they ought to be yeeted so that the teachers can get on with job of teaching the kids instead of being distracted by changing protocols and perhaps focus on raising the attentiveness of their charges.

I hope my answer satisfies you. I'm going to be away, so I'll prolly lurk but unlikely to participate further.

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