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Genuine question- is Please and Thankyou a cultural thing on the EEVBlog forum ?
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MK14:
This reminds me (the thread), of an eye opening youtube video. Where an amazing guy, who builds and plays amazing musical marble machines, which he designs and builds himself. Where he carefully explains how to get himself motivated/focused and NOT distracted by forums and things. So he can concentrate on very long term project builds.

My apologies, it is a rather long video, > 20 minutes. A quick summary is:
The theory goes that the brain produces dopamine, giving one's brain apparent reward(s), just for checking in on the forums (in his case whatsapp and a Chess webserver), rather than concentrating and doing what we all SHOULD be doing.



Example of one of his amazing musical marble machines:
(off-topic, but it shows what amazing things can be achieved, if he/we don't let the internet distract us too much   :)  )


Terry Bites:
A simple acknowledgement of the efforts of others is a must even if it wasn't the best or correct advice.
Failing to define a problem coherently and in context seems to me to be very rude to the reader. There's no excuse for it and there is far too much of it!

Comment is just comment and doesn't necessarily need a response. Q&A should be treated as person to person or person to group dialogue.
The lack of properly framed questions and the lack of acknowledgement to responses reveals is a disturbing level of entitlement among some users of this forum.




 
Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: Fraser on March 21, 2021, 10:44:37 am ---A previous poster used the term ‘social lubrication’ and I guess that is what pleasantries are. They make the other party feel happy and that is good. I shall continue to be cordial in my communications on this forum as that is ‘just me’.  :)
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I did.  The point being, lubrication is necessary for efficient, robust operation.

I personally do need to have a wider reach than just one throwaway question by a single person online, because solving a single instance (or with unreasonable restrictions because of a one-off situation) just isn't worth it to me.

In the real world things are different, because of the large amount of nonverbal information conveyed – just seeing the tightness and stress relax in the other person when a particularly nasty problem is efficiently solved, has a bigger effort on myself than any "thank you", because it occurs on a lower level: it has more emotional impact.

I do not believe it is soul-searching to consider why one helps others, or how it best suits oneself.  There are many reasons and many different ways, and being self-aware rather than just do things because it is customary to do them, is kind of necessary to be considered a sapient being, in my opinion.

For that, I applaud your consideration and effort.  And also for bringing up this topic.


--- Quote from: Fraser on March 21, 2021, 10:44:37 am ---It occurs to me that technical forums can be hybrids in terms of social interaction. Some areas of forums have more social interaction than others and it would appear that there is a demand for communications and data efficiency in some forum areas that preclude social ‘niceties’.
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Agreed.  I believe a big factor is the fact that some/many (I have no statistics, only anecdotal evidence on this) technically oriented people do not perceive social interactions like most do, and simply do not have the facilities to do social interaction efficiently in the customary way; they lack the instincts on how to use the "niceties" that make interaction easier.

I know, because I am one of those people.  I've had to learn social interaction, like others learn maths or a foreign language.  Being bad at it in some situations but not others is not intentional, it's just that it's an ongoing learning process that requires practice.  And feedback.
MK14:

--- Quote from: Terry Bites on March 21, 2021, 05:24:54 pm ---The lack of properly framed questions and the lack of acknowledgement to responses reveals is a disturbing level of entitlement among some users of this forum.

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What I sometimes (or even often), see on this forum. Is these various 'new", 1 or 2 post, thread-starters. Who (in some/many cases) never return to this forum again, ever. At least NOT as that forum user name.

But, I suspect (in some cases), it is the same person, returning again and again. Never wanting to create a user with anything other than a tiny total post count.

Where it can get especially annoying (at least to me), is where they repeatedly ask the same question, again, again and again. Possibly slightly changing it, but it is fairly obvious (but NOT 100% certain), they are really the same individual.

When (essentially) the same question, is continually asked (under different forum user IDs), there seems to be a pattern. Whereby they want a particular 'answer', which confirms their (usually) mistaken beliefs. When someone gives the (correct) but different answer to what they want to hear. they just disappear (as that user). Then a week later (highly approximate), they return with the same basic question.

I don't want to point the finger of blame at anyone, but here is a typical example (with some details made up for dramatic effect):

They want someone to supply a schematic, for a 75 Volt, 60 Amp, Bench power supply, which MUST BE LINEAR, linear ONLY!. As they begin to get replies, they let slip, they will only accept answers with a maximum of one output transistor, which must be a 2N3055 they have, and the heatsink must be small, because they don't like the look of big heatsinks.

Eventually, after many new users, and forum replies. They let slip they already have the transformer, and WON'T get a different one (as it costs money). Which turns out to be totally unsuitable for the task in hand, a dangerous microwave one at that. Etc etc.

I accept I am exaggerating, but not really by a huge amount. Some of the threads seem way too dangerous for beginners and/or way too technically complicated and/or their expectations are completely unrealistic.

EDIT: On reflection as regards my reply. Maybe I'm being a bit unfair. When you are a beginner, unrealistic expectations of what you can achieve, what is potentially highly dangerous and what practical limits there are, is going to be difficult for beginners to comprehend. So I am being a bit or more, unfair here.
joeqsmith:
Went out of my way to help this person.  Never heard if they even received the parts I took the time to pull and ship to them.   

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