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Germany shutting down last nuclear power plants on April 15th
nctnico:
There has been way too much focus on CO2 -which doesn't kill people at all and certainly not short term- and the toxic pollution has been forgotten. At least the the NL the government has stopped subsidising burning bio-mass in power plants (which also causes massive air pollution).
rstofer:
And then there is California's last nuclear plant, Diablo Canyon, which provides 15% of California's energy needs scheduled to be shut own in 2024 and 2025.
But wait! We've already had rolling blackouts (2020) and with electric cars coming along, demand is going to increase.
So, the feds are willing to give PG&E a $1.1B infusion to keep the plant running for another 5 years and the State is willing to lend PG&E $1.4B to not do the work of shutting it down. Pretty cool! Don't spend money already allocated for closure and slurp up money for not doing the job.
https://www.ksby.com/news/local-news/pg-e-to-receive-1-1-billion-in-federal-funds-for-nuclear-power-plant-operations
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-08-12/california-could-lend-pg-e-1-4-billion-to-save-the-diablo-canyon-nuclear-plant
We came to our senses just in time. A lot of our energy comes from the Pacific Northwest and one day they won't have any to give. The other big source is Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant in Arizona. The plant is partially owned by California utilities but the people of Arizona want it closed down regardless of the shortages in California.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station
https://www.maricopa.gov/1002/PVGS
I wanted a rude username:
james_s:
--- Quote from: rstofer on April 10, 2023, 02:07:49 am ---And then there is California's last nuclear plant, Diablo Canyon, which provides 15% of California's energy needs scheduled to be shut own in 2024 and 2025.
But wait! We've already had rolling blackouts (2020) and with electric cars coming along, demand is going to increase.
--- End quote ---
California reminds me of a train that is speeding toward an unfinished section of track, it's going to be a spectacular wreck.
A friend of mine works for an unrelated branch of the government of CA and from what she has told me about day to day happenings no matter how bad you think it is, it's even more disjointed and dysfunctional than you'd think.
Electric cars are cool but the electricity has to come from somewhere and the rolling blackouts suggest that piling massive new loads on the grid is not a wise idea.
SiliconWizard:
Which reminds me of this quote from Dijkstra :
--- Quote ---"Object-oriented programming is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California."
--- End quote ---
;D
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