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Germany shutting down last nuclear power plants on April 15th
Neutrion:
--- Quote from: nctnico on April 22, 2023, 08:44:34 pm ---In the NL the debate is to put the new nuclear power plants near energy intensive industries or not. One of the problems is that creating high quality products is not something you can move to low cost countries very easely. For example.: Tata steel in the NL produces some very high quality steel products that can't be sourced from China. Additionally there is also more focus on sourcing products with a low CO2 footprint. IIRC I have read some news articles saying that there might be CO2 footprint dependant import taxes for products made abroad to level the playing field.
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But as I understand right from our discussion here the Netherland went for the nuclear option :) without having numbers comparing TCO and ROI for the renewables+storage and the nuclear+storage?
And for the nuclear price they were counting with the 40+ years old NPP's with 50 years plus safety standards? I assume that you are just going to buy all the plans for an old german plant, or maybe an even cheaper from Chernobil?
Is this really the way you did it? (Did you just outsourced the expert energetical planning and decision making to Hungary? Because that would be a plausible explanation :) )
nctnico:
You are assuming things that aren't there. I suggest you use Google to find the reports that the Dutch policy is based on. It is all public.
Neutrion:
I am not assuming, but stating that you mentioned 4cents/kWhr price for nuclear energy.
So either that price was not for the proposed new NPPs, or NL calculating with a price almost 3 times cheaper than that of any other new NPP's of other nations around.
I found articles like this:
https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Dutch-study-finds-commercial-support-for-nuclear-n
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/netherlands-plans-build-two-nuclear-power-plants-by-2035-2022-12-09/ (Two NPP's for 5 billion Euros)
Or this in dutch by kpmg:
https://open.overheid.nl/documenten/ronl-1b94eccd-4055-4b06-aca5-3c28e7ab7776/pdf
But I don't speak dutch so it will take some time to go through it. But still not sure this is what you mean.
But if you could help out with a link, we could finally see what nucler price the NL was aiming for, and how the decision was made.
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