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Getting paid by a university Prof?
ebastler:
--- Quote from: nctnico on September 19, 2023, 03:07:19 pm ---But maybe you should just see how your friend likes the idea first instead of wild guess work.
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This! The important question is whether she thinks it is fair to give you some remuneration. If so, I am sure she will know how to make that happen through the university -- heck, she works at the place! Why should it be your job to figure out payment modalities?
thm_w:
--- Quote from: ebastler on September 19, 2023, 09:09:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on September 19, 2023, 03:07:19 pm ---But maybe you should just see how your friend likes the idea first instead of wild guess work.
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This! The important question is whether she thinks it is fair to give you some remuneration. If so, I am sure she will know how to make that happen through the university -- heck, she works at the place! Why should it be your job to figure out payment modalities?
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I think its just OP being odd and having weird assumptions. Did you read the fantasies they wrote? "I am not willing to waste my life registering as a business and going insane satisfying some little Mussolini in a finance department who believes all payments need fancy invoices. "
It takes like 5 mins to write up an invoice in your own name. Any legit plumber or electrician is going to write up an invoice for their services, it is the normal process.
Complaining that a uni won't let you work under the table for cash. lol.
hans:
Isn't it impossible to write a genuine invoice without VAT and/or business registration numbers? Accountants are typically the most strict people at an university. So no VAT number on invoice? No payment..
Its usually not the people in the workplace that will put down useless roadblocks. Profs and the like will happily accommodate their work and people.. but funding, procedures and rules are in place so people won't privatize public funds etc.
Paid in material goods? Can I spin that around as a donation?* I'm sure it would break some rule.. or even be fraudulent.. but its not the first time I heard that trick being done in the private sector (the donation was to help a business relationship :horse: ).
But funding is also a big deal. In my university, PhDs and the like are most often funded through publicly subsidized research projects with strictly allocated budgets. Some PhDs work on a private grant from a prof. Either way, some project budgets are allocated for publications, travel and some modest material costs. A part of these budgets can also be "in kind" meaning that a company will donate (their) products or services (e.g. consultancy hours) instead of cash. I think this is typically done to increase knowledge transfer opportunities between university/company. Typically its a mix.
The bigger expenses like software licenses or expensive lab equipment are typically paid for by the department. Sometimes companies can donate stuff as well.. But I'm not sure how exactly those rules are. Universities try their best to stay independent in their (public) research activities.
With that knowledge, I think its a bit of a stretch for a research chair to allocate some budget (be it specific project or public funds from their department) to finance a "donation" though. Maybe it is possible, but it depends on the budget authority and also the willingness from the people involved.
edit: *: donation to a private individual is likely seen as income and would need to be taxxed. I presume that, regardless of what an university or company can do, that these actions are not legal at all.
mikeselectricstuff:
--- Quote from: hans on September 19, 2023, 10:18:39 pm ---Isn't it impossible to write a genuine invoice without VAT and/or business registration numbers?
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In the UK, no.
There is no such thing as "business" registration - you do not need to be a registered company to trade, and VAT registration is only required if your turnover exceeds a certain amount
AndyBeez:
Difficult one. You were not an employee of the uni or contracted by the uni. So paying you as a casual worker with PAYE against your tax code, or as a supplier against an invoice, does not work. You might ge able to wangle some ex gratia type payment from the faculty, but they would not be morally obliged to make a payment unless, your Prof agrees that you were 'employed' in some 'casual' or speculative capacity in creating the software. However, a special bursary payment from the uni might be the way to go, as this would be easy for them to account for and, the money will come out of a different coloured bucket. And remember, you still retain the intellectual property rights to your software. So no need to stress :)
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