How BLE/ Mesh networks (IE your light bulbs) can spy on you

[TimFox]

Yes, the "good" probably outweighs the "ill" for most users.
I have heard of divorce attorneys subpoenaing the information to see who visits the user, but catching porch thieves and other miscreants is a good thing.

[Rick Law]

Yes, the "good" probably outweighs the "ill" for most users.
I have heard of divorce attorneys subpoenaing the information to see who visits the user, but catching porch thieves and other miscreants is a good thing.

I failed to see the "good" in having unlimited ability to monitor and intrude into another person's life.

1984 is here, just a few decades late but a few orders of magnitude more intrusive.  The Stasi would have been envious of our technological accomplishments.

[SiliconWizard]

Yes, the "good" probably outweighs the "ill" for most users.
I have heard of divorce attorneys subpoenaing the information to see who visits the user, but catching porch thieves and other miscreants is a good thing.

I failed to see the "good" in having unlimited ability to monitor and intrude into another person's life.

1984 is here, just a few decades late but a few orders of magnitude more intrusive.  The Stasi would have been envious of our technological accomplishments.

Same opinion.
I fail to see how the good really outweighs the bad. I think that's really something we all need to seriously ponder on. Claiming it's mostly all good, without really giving it much thought, is what makes it so easy to get us to a place we won't want to be - but it'll be too late.

But dedicated wireless access, while they pose issues of their own, is not nearly as bad as internet connection. (Granted, often "connected" devices have both anyway...)
Seriously. For light bulbs, having a remote can be handy - although absolutely not indispensable - but having them connected to the internet? Fuck no. Why would I want to go through Google servers (for instance with all the Google home crap), and have them log everything I do with my freaking bulbs, just to switch them off and on or change colors? Have we sunk that low?

[james_s]

I'm monitoring my own property with my cameras along with a small portion of the public sidewalk that is in the edge of the frame, it isn't intruding into anyone's life or watching what they do, the only people who ever end up being recorded by them are people who enter onto my property. Even then the only time I ever watch the footage is when something gives me reason to. I don't see anything bad about it.

[TimFox]

Of course you have the right to monitor your own property.
The modern questions that arise are when you allow (with or without your knowledge and explicit permission) that information to be available to others through the cloud or other routes.

[james_s]

Well I can't speak for everyone but it darn will had better only be with my explicit permission that somebody accesses the video. I'm happy to provide it to the police or a neighbor if they ask, but that is assuming there has been some kind of incident they're investigating. I've never had them stop by uninvited and ask to view my footage for no reason and would not expect that to ever happen.

[TimFox]

My point is relevant when the data or video leave your property into the cloud, or wherever it is technically possible to retrieve it without asking your permission.