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MrMobodies:
Just found this in the newspaper today.




--- Quote ---"Family Link"

Bedtime 20:00 - 7:00

Holly's device
Locked until 7 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Family_Link

--- Quote ---Google Family Link is a family parental controls service by Google that allows parents to adjust parameters for their children's devices.[1] The application allows parents to restrict content, approve or disapprove apps, set screen times, and more. Google Family Link requires Google accounts in order to access the app remotely.
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I don't remember restrictions like that in my time over 20 years ago and was pretty much free to do what I like as long as it was reasonable and didn't cause trouble.

If I was around 10 and that was done to me I'd go bezerk and be very upset especially if I couldn't factory default the device to gain control. I'd just hand it back and rather not want it than it being manipulated and restricted by the parents through Google and spied over everything I do by the parents. I'd possibly save up for one so it doesn't belong anybody to put their hands on it. Yes I want my space and privacy thank you very much that I remember doing so at around that age and with anything given to me.

What do you think?

Could you stand being restricted like that with electronic stuff given to you at around that age?

Just thought about the title:
Find a balance... Maybe educate and talk to the children more about their device and safety?

PlainName:

--- Quote ---I don't remember restrictions like that in my time over 20 years ago
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You probably had some restrictions. Not going out after whatever time, not watching TV until 4am, etc. This is just the same and I bet if the current social media stuff was around then you'd've been told not to stay up all night browsing it.


--- Quote ---If I was around 10 and that was done to me I'd go bezerk
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aka throw a tantrum :)


--- Quote ---I'd possibly save up for one so it doesn't belong anybody to put their hands on it.
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You could afford to blow $100 or so at age 10? Hmmm.

Anyway, it's a real problem. An acquaintance recently asked me for help to restrict his internet after 8pm because his grandson was staying up all night playing in the intertubes. Not sure how old he is, but perhaps a bit less than 10. They'd tried unplugging the router and that kind of thing, but the kid would sneak down and plug it in again. It was a bad enough problem that the adults were willing to be cut off in order to stop the kid doing the internet equivalent of pissing off down the pub instead of going to bed.

You might have noticed that the Chinese have just slapped a 3-hour per week limit on young kids.

MrMobodies:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 22, 2021, 10:29:07 pm ---
--- Quote ---I don't remember restrictions like that in my time over 20 years ago
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You probably had some restrictions. Not going out after whatever time, not watching TV until 4am, etc. This is just the same and I bet if the current social media stuff was around then you'd've been told not to stay up all night browsing it.
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I wouldn't make myself tired on the week day as I'd be in trouble with the school. I got tired at the end of the day and settled down but not too early depending on how I was feeling. I use to stay up on the Fridays night to Sunday morning to see some movies I think did finish at about 4am in the morning.

I just had laptop with a few old computers but no phone, not much you could with them back then other than to make calls and seemed expensive at the time and no reason why I would want one. When I got dialup, the only restriction was that it was 1p a minute, then AOL came along with unlimited (actually had to reconnect on the 59th minute of the hour at first or I'd be charged at first) I spent as long as I liked on the weekends at night but never on the weekdays as that would make me tired for the next day. I remembered there were chat rooms (silly talk I found in many of them) and so on but didn't really interest me apart from a few lan games but I not good at those (if that's similar to social media stuff).

I remembered a boarding school I stayed at where there were some students who would spend a lot of their money talking to each other in the same building or virtually next door to one another all night from their beds load on these dot matrix phones that the staff had to tell them to stop due to the complaints from those trying to sleep.


--- Quote ---If I was around 10 and that was done to me I'd go bezerk

aka throw a tantrum :)
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Yes, why not? let them know how I feel and hand the device back (useless to me) or they may never know and do the same with other stuff.

So better not give me anything if they feel that way but I had no restrictions like that on anything like that.
I suppose there would be restrictions if I didn't manage myself.



--- Quote ---I'd possibly save up for one so it doesn't belong anybody to put their hands on it.
--- End quote ---

You could afford to blow $100 or so at age 10? Hmmm.[/quote]

I'd try to save up my money if I really wanted something.

Anything given to me wasn't restricted and I did what I like with them.


--- Quote ---Anyway, it's a real problem. An acquaintance recently asked me for help to restrict his internet after 8pm because his grandson was staying up all night playing in the intertubes. Not sure how old he is, but perhaps a bit less than 10. They'd tried unplugging the router and that kind of thing, but the kid would sneak down and plug it in again. It was a bad enough problem that the adults were willing to be cut off in order to stop the kid doing the internet equivalent of pissing off down the pub instead of going to bed.

You might have noticed that the Chinese have just slapped a 3-hour per week limit on young kids.
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Good point there... that's a shame that some can't control themselves.

Never knew that about the Chinese but per week doesn't seem much.

I know someone who more han 10 years ago restricted their broadband using the router at a certain time but their children still stayed up over the school nights talking to their friends and playing games, watching films but by tethering their phones and racked up about £600 to £800 at a time.

eti:

--- Quote from: MrMobodies on September 22, 2021, 09:41:35 pm ---Just found this in the newspaper today.




--- Quote ---"Family Link"

Bedtime 20:00 - 7:00

Holly's device
Locked until 7 AM
--- End quote ---

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Family_Link

--- Quote ---Google Family Link is a family parental controls service by Google that allows parents to adjust parameters for their children's devices.[1] The application allows parents to restrict content, approve or disapprove apps, set screen times, and more. Google Family Link requires Google accounts in order to access the app remotely.
--- End quote ---

I don't remember restrictions like that in my time over 20 years ago and was pretty much free to do what I like as long as it was reasonable and didn't cause trouble.

If I was around 10 and that was done to me I'd go bezerk and be very upset especially if I couldn't factory default the device to gain control. I'd just hand it back and rather not want it than it being manipulated and restricted by the parents through Google and spied over everything I do by the parents. I'd possibly save up for one so it doesn't belong anybody to put their hands on it. Yes I want my space and privacy thank you very much that I remember doing so at around that age and with anything given to me.

What do you think?

Could you stand being restricted like that with electronic stuff given to you at around that age?

Just thought about the title:
Find a balance... Maybe educate and talk to the children more about their device and safety?

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Children submit to their parents authority, since THEY ARE CHILDREN and don't yet know the ways of the world, and what your parents say GOES, zero pandering. A ten year old with a decent, balanced upbringing wouldn't throw a tantrum, he'd have been brought up with a sense of respect for his elders.

They're children - they don't get to dictate to the ones who bore them. These are the very early stages of an indication as to what has gone drastically wrong in Western, overly liberal society.

Poor parenting blames the child, whereas the blame lies at the door of delinquent, irresponsible parents. It doesn't matter ONE BIT what "everyone else" in society does - this is YOUR CHILD, not society's child - you either want to raise your children in a wholesome and respectful manner, where they see their place in the hierarchy, and grow to respect you and to respect those who are in control, or you want them to dominate you (and then you'll likely blame them, despite you being the parents.)

This is a Christian principle, but then we live in a GOD-hating secular crazy world, so no surprise.

Before you go:

Yes, I'm a Christian, and I love GOD, and to save you the tedious time and effort of rattling off some tedious, parroted rhetorical stereotypes about Christians and "the imaginary man in the sky", you may as well realise I've heard it (and ignored it) all before, day after day, 10,000x over. Nothing you will say to mock will be new, or will shock or surprise me, so if you want to go ahead and wear your keyboard out and stress yourselves out, I can't stop you, but won't react - you have every right to.

MrMobodies:

--- Quote from: eti on September 23, 2021, 12:46:15 am ---This is a Christian principle, but then we live in a GOD-hating secular crazy world, so no surprise.

Before you go:

Yes, I'm a Christian, and I love GOD, and to save you the tedious time and effort of rattling off some tedious, parroted rhetorical stereotypes about Christians and "the imaginary man in the sky", you may as well realise I've heard it (and ignored it) all before, day after day, 10,000x over. Nothing you will say to mock will be new, or will shock or surprise me, so if you want to go ahead and wear your keyboard out and stress yourselves out, I can't stop you, but won't react - you have every right to.

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I have nothing against you being a Christian or any religion.

Some people in religious groups that I spoke to in the past were proud of of their beliefs and I have seen them help others out there in trouble in their time of need and they go and pray at their church.
They helped me out for a year or two until I moved and I have seen them support one another.

I hope I didn't insult anyone here on my time on this board.

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