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| Siwastaja:
You just don't get what I am saying |O. Many others use Google to find Facebook. Google is optimized this use case in mind, as well as some other very simplistic pseudo-searches. I don't enter "facebook" into Google and thus I am not interested about what results it gives with this search term. Is this now clear? |
| mcinque:
--- Quote ---I mean, when this is the primary use case, then it's a good idea to tune the algorithm in such way it returns facebook.com as the first result, instead of pages that discuss facebook - for example, Wikipedia page about facebook. --- End quote --- aside from the fact that misunderstandings can happen, I just responded to the example by showing that it was exactly as you asked yes, so many use google to search for a site instead of typing it into the address bar (which they don't even know what it is; many think the Internet is google), but technology has to adapt to its users: google does the same. if you search for a www.facebook.com google understands that you are looking for the site and returns the facebook site as the first result. --- Quote ---Google is optimized this use case in mind, as well as some other very simplistic pseudo-searches. --- End quote --- From what I can see, that's not exactly the case. However, you can use advanced search operators to improve how google does your search, for example by entering facebook -forum -review -discussions -news -trends |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: mcinque on June 29, 2022, 06:44:50 pm --- --- Quote from: Siwastaja on June 29, 2022, 05:42:18 am --- --- Quote from: thm_w on June 28, 2022, 09:29:14 pm ---I don't see how searching for "facebook" and getting the result "facebook.com" would somehow dumb down the algorithm. --- End quote --- I mean, when this is the primary use case, then it's a good idea to tune the algorithm in such way it returns facebook.com as the first result, instead of pages that discuss facebook - for example, Wikipedia page about facebook. --- End quote --- That's exactly what happens here: 1st result. It's normal and it's what I expect. (Attachment Link) On the side there are infos about your search (the facebook company?), the most authoritative result: wikipedia. You can give a feedback on the results and that suggestions may help to tune google on your preferences. If you are seeing different results, I think what you are experiencing are results based on your web and google behavior: depending on what sites you give importance to, google adapts and suggests certain sites rather than another. Try browsing incognito or with a different IP to see if the results change. --- End quote --- Google generates stupid search results! This is supposed to be news? You search for Facebook and it gives pro-abortion propaganda at the bottom of the first page, which just shows Google's political bias. It's important to take this into account when searching for anything remotely political, or where different sides of the US political spectrum disagree on a matter. Unfortunately this bullcrap is starting to infect some areas of science and engineering, especially the theoretical side. |
| Haenk:
--- Quote from: mcinque on June 11, 2022, 05:53:33 pm --- --- Quote from: mc172 on June 11, 2022, 11:50:19 am ---Search engines return results in an order that makes them the most money. --- End quote --- maybe OT, but please argue on this, i would like to hear your point. clicks on organic results do not generate money, only ads do. --- End quote --- You are thinking way too small. Think outside the box. The results shown are very often linked out via tracking URL, so Google (or Bing or whatever search engine) can improve their correlation "your search term" <-> "the content that matters to you and probably others". So in turn, they could better match search terms; that match could be sold for more money as a fine tuned search term to advertisers. So even clicking on the search term will generate profit in the long run. |
| mcinque:
--- Quote from: mc172 on June 11, 2022, 11:50:19 am ---Search engines return results in an order that makes them the most money. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Haenk on June 30, 2022, 11:54:43 am ---You are thinking way too small. Think outside the box. --- End quote --- we don't have multimillion-dollar search engine companies or run them, so we can't know more about them in terms of how to generate profit from searches. I don't think we can think better of them since their goal is just to make money, what they do is done to make money, even if it seems bad. --- Quote from: Haenk on June 30, 2022, 11:54:43 am ---So even clicking on the search term will generate profit in the long run. --- End quote --- That's exactly what I told. "Search engines return results in an order that makes them the most money." |
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