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Great Scott 1.21 (almost) Jigowatts -- new reactor in USA
rstofer:
You would think that .gov backed loans would smooth the process except that the .gov changes periodically. Like our pipeline projects!
If we had power outages during this record hot spell, I bet nuclear would be back on the table. Fortunately, the grid has held up. At least in California...
Ground_Loop:
--- Quote from: JustMeHere on August 02, 2023, 08:45:03 am ---New reactor came online in the USA this week. 1,100 Gigawatts.
Makes you realize how much power it takes to time travel.
https://www.ajc.com/news/first-new-vogtle-nuclear-reactor-enters-operation-making-history/QUW3BTDRJRDT7MRWB3UHLRWX4A/
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We're not happy. GA Power badgered our Public Service Commission into allowing fees to offset construction costs for this thing. That on top of increased rates due to "rising fuel costs." Fifty percent of my bill is fees and taxes. And summer basic rates are nearly double the rest of the year. While the unit is new, the facility is decades old, which makes the final cost that much more sinful.
karpouzi:
Should be the first of many new generation plants. Fossil fuel emissions are an urgent problem and renewables aren't going to take up the slack by themselves.
ejeffrey:
--- Quote from: rstofer on August 03, 2023, 03:22:44 pm ---
Lawsuits cause delays and delays cost money - lots of money. The game plan of the anti-nukes has always been to drive the cost so high that nobody would think of building a project.
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Lawsuits played no meaningful role in the Vogtle delays or the delays that ended up killing the Summer reactor project. The problem was the design was incomplete and effective when they stated building it, so bad that Westinghouse went out of business. They had to redesign major parts during the construction and then had repeated collosal project management failures.
TimFox:
--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on August 03, 2023, 11:20:57 pm ---You are correct. Lawsuits, I had forgotten about those.
Indeed, even if the suit is lost or is dismissed, the fear they impart on the potential investors for the cost overruns, will make them to run away from such a project.
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The authors of the book I cited above looked at projects in the US and PRC, where lawsuits, nimbyism, and other factors differ considerably. They found similar patterns in project overruns to those I mentioned in that post, in the two countries.
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