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H5N1 bird flu and how we're risking another global pandemic

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coppice:

--- Quote from: m k on May 04, 2024, 11:19:29 am ---One thought for young vs. old.
If virus goes to lungs it's, up to the point, good the have worse than better immunity.
Very good immunity can hit back so hard the you'll finally suffocate.

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That was what made SARS in 2003 so nasty. Quite a number of young fit people's immune systems went into overdrive and killed them. There never seemed to be much publicity about that, but I know people in the HK medical system who told me some harrowing stories.

NiHaoMike:
https://twitter.com/danibeckman/status/1786650661603446976?t=Ox8-l5JlhQi3QBapsjTsVg
Not a good development. More spreading, more chances for mutations.

All the talk about vaccines misses the point that if there weren't factory farms to multiply the virus so efficiently, there would be less chance of an outbreak happening in the first place and therefore the vaccines to keep it under control would be less important.

Bud:
Dude, you should not miss appointments with your psychiatrist.

NiHaoMike:
Factory farming causing pandemics is not a conspiracy theory. It has happened before.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/20/factory-farms-pandemic-risk-covid-animal-human-health

--- Quote ---But with recent pandemic virus threats from influenza viruses such as H1N1 (swine flu) or H5N1 (bird flu) there is no ambiguity: those viruses evolved on chicken and pig factory farms. Genetic analyses have shown that crucial components of H1N1 emerged from a virus circulating in North American pigs. But it is commercial poultry operations that appear to be the Silicon Valley of viral development.

It is on chicken factory farms that we have most frequently found viruses that have mutated from a form found only in animals into a form that harms humans (what scientists call “antigenic shift”). It is these “novel” viruses that our immune systems are unfamiliar with and that can prove most deadly.

Of 16 strains of novel influenza viruses currently identified by the CDC as “of special concern,” including H5N1, 11 come from viruses of the H5 or H7 type. In 2018 a group of scientists analysed the 39 antigenic shifts, also called “conversion events,” that we know played a key role in the emergence of these particularly dangerous strains. Their results prove that “all but two of these events were reported in commercial poultry production systems”.

Imagine if our military leaders told us that almost every terrorist in recent memory had spent time in the same training camp, but no politician would call for an investigation of the training camp. Imagine if we knew that those terrorists were developing weapons more destructive than any that has been used, or tested, in human history. This is our situation when it comes to pandemics and farming.
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themadhippy:
why worry about it, about the only thing guaranteed with life,apart from tax ,is death.

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