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H5N1 bird flu and how we're risking another global pandemic

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NiHaoMike:
Raising awareness of the problem and pushing for solutions as it could have worldwide impact.

fred001:
Free range farming allows viruses to move back and forth easily between factory farms and wild birds

Too bad this topic has nothing to do with electronics



Simon:

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Then there's all the other misinformation exaggerating the efficacy of masks, keeping 2m apart etc. which lacked rigorous evidence to support and the authoritarian policies copied from Communist China. It appears as though the public health authorities did their level best to destroy their reputation.

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And what proof is there that distancing does not work?
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It isn't. I didn't say that it's proof that masks and keeping 2m apart don't work, just that there's no strong evidence they do. The Cochrane review into masking found it to be inconclusive and as far as I'm aware no studies have been conducted into whether keeping 2m apart does anything to reduce the spread or not. And why 2m? Perhaps 1m would have done? Or maybe we needed to keep 3m or 5m apart? Where's the evidence?

It would be different if we were just advised to wear masks and keep 2m apart. That wouldn't have been ideal, given the lack of evidence, but the fact we were forced to, under pain of a fine, is disgusting. If the authorities are going to punish people for breaking rules, then there needs to be extremely strong evidence to support them in the first place.

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Both distancing and masks rely on basic physics! You want a study? go an throw some tennis balls and notice that the further they go the closer to the ground they get. And that if you through them as several layers of nets they will no go nearly as far. What you are asking for in the equivalent to arguing about the distance to the moon because a tape measure was not used.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: fred001 on May 05, 2024, 04:59:53 am ---Free range farming allows viruses to move back and forth easily between factory farms and wild birds

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Viruses spread a lot easier if the animals are kept unnaturally close together. And that the poor health of the animals makes them more vulnerable to disease in the first place.

Wallace Gasiewicz:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Andrew-Havics/publication/340363419/figure/fig3/AS:875611916611584@1585773557782/Sneeze-through-a-surgical-mask-from-Jennison-1942.jpg

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