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Offline madires

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Re: Hackers lock TV and demands ransom..
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2014, 11:20:04 am »
Philips just added a new security hole: http://vimeo.com/m/90138302
 

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Re: Hackers lock TV and demands ransom..
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2014, 11:32:04 am »
Sure, but it doesn't follow that because one does it they all do it.

Ah, the "isolated incident" defense. Well ...

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Evidence? Considering that smart TVs have come under heavy scrutiny

What heavy scrutiny? A few nerds looking at them, while the unwashed masses just want their entertainment.

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Can you say specifically what the "usual" user tracking my Panasonic TV does is?

The already mention HbbTV. A standard feature in Europe. Panasonic added it as a feature to VIERA Connect.
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Re: Hackers lock TV and demands ransom..
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2014, 11:53:58 am »
I agree that we need to be very careful, especially in light of all the NSA/GCHQ criminality, but wild accusations without evidence are still unjustified. I have studied the Panasonic system, it's based on NetBSD and seems to be quite securely locked down. No open ports apart from when you enable its DLNA server, and no known exploits. It doesn't send any data out without my command, except for background firmware update checks that include a unique identifier and can be disabled (and yes, they do in fact stop).

I've done my homework, what about you?

Does it support IPv6? Currently there's no IPv6 capable system without security issues in the IP stack. Have you heard of covert channels? Are you monitoring the traffic of your TV? The problem is that you can only estimate a probability of your TV being secure. If you aren't an expert in network security you have to trust the vendor and we've seen too much examples of bad security and privacy issues so far, i.e. there's no vendor you can trust. The vendors have no intention to fix security issues for older TVs because that would decrease their profit. It's more important to sell new TV models.
 

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Re: Hackers lock TV and demands ransom..
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2014, 07:30:13 pm »
You do realise that using Chrome feeds every URL to Google for DNS and anti malware " for your protection" and to improve the ad experience.
 

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Re: Hackers lock TV and demands ransom..
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2014, 10:33:30 am »
No IPv6 support. I monitored the traffic coming from the TV, it does DHCP to get an address, checks for firmware updates (if enabled) and that's it. No other traffic unless I take some specific action to generate some.

It's true that I can't be 100% sure it is secure or not spying, but Bored@Work claimed LG like monitoring and security vulnerabilities. I presented some evidence that his first claim is false, and asked for some proof of his second claim to which he has offered nothing. The onus is on him to substantiate his claims.

+1 for LG, although this is not a bullet proof statement like NSA stuff. Own a late 2013 LG smart tv here too, there was an incident that it was leaking tons of infos to the net, and it was blew up in the press world wide while ago. But now they've fixed it, and the fix was released & delivered really fast since it was discovered. I think in the matter of days if I'm not mistaken.

I own a sniffer running at 24/7, and from the log its now "fixed" as mojo-chan's.


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