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Harmonised technical standards to be publicly available in EU
coppice:
--- Quote from: kosine on March 06, 2024, 11:24:30 am ---British Standards (and possibly others) have always been publicly available for free at your local library. The caveat is/was that they arrived on microfiche so you couldn't copy them. Nothing to stop you writing down all the important bits, though. (Not sure how the system works these days. Does anyone even still use microfiche?)
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That's viable for looking up a few figures, but when its things like protocol standards its completely unrealistic. You need the documents at your side for extended periods.
Do local libraries still have those microfiche systems? I remember looking things up at the local library in the 1970s, when they were novel technology, and the librarians were eager to show off their new toys.
HwAoRrDk:
--- Quote from: coppice on March 06, 2024, 11:23:10 am ---Those copyrights are mostly bogus. They put their own copyright on a lot of stuff which is just imported from another standards group.
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I don't know about the copyright situation, but I have seen a BS document that was literally the ISO document with a BSI cover page. :D
coppice:
--- Quote from: HwAoRrDk on March 06, 2024, 11:52:49 am ---
--- Quote from: coppice on March 06, 2024, 11:23:10 am ---Those copyrights are mostly bogus. They put their own copyright on a lot of stuff which is just imported from another standards group.
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I don't know about the copyright situation, but I have seen a BS document that was literally the ISO document with a BSI cover page. :D
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A huge number of ISO documents can be found published as national documents. Usually with something close to the ISO document number, with "BS", "EN", "GB", or other local identifier prepended.
5U4GB:
--- Quote from: coppice on March 06, 2024, 11:16:14 am ---If you can't have some trust that the document you are using is an accurate copy of the current in force revision of the standard, how can you ever verify compliance? Do you want the country's laws subject to people tampering with the content without consequence?
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So you're saying that a country's laws, which have been available freely for centuries at least and have never had this problem, are somehow different from the standard for making a cup of tea, which the minute it's made freely available will have hordes of bogeymen descend on it and change the recipe and republish the doctored version because... well I don't know, it's such an illogical argument that you'll have to provide the reasoning because it's your (well, ISO's) argument, not mine.
Do you work for a standards body by any chance?
5U4GB:
--- Quote from: tom66 on March 06, 2024, 11:17:59 am ---How does that prevent iso.org from releasing official standards for free? If you want to be really cautious about it, they could even digitally sign the documents with their key so you can be certain the document is from ISO and not anyone else.
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Well, first of all you'd have to demonstrate that such a problem even exists. Since we've had laws and regulations freely available for centuries without this problem occurring, I await @coppice's response with interest.
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