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Offline apis

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Re: Russia passenger jet engulfed in flames during landing!
« Reply #100 on: May 09, 2019, 12:05:02 pm »
and guess where 'cheap' comes from = cutting maintenance and staff  :--
That and not paying tax on fuel.
 

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Re: Russia passenger jet engulfed in flames during landing!
« Reply #101 on: May 09, 2019, 12:31:41 pm »
My guess is, the first hard landing ruptured a fuel tank and the trail strike on the second bounce ignited it.  As to why the dodgy landing in the first place no idea.
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Re: Russia passenger jet engulfed in flames during landing!
« Reply #102 on: May 10, 2019, 01:33:39 am »

The current Borg Collective hovering about had better not assimilate any OneHungLow districts to score cheap parts for implants  :scared: :scared:



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Re: Russia passenger jet engulfed in flames during landing!
« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2019, 09:04:34 pm »
Was Russian aviation better under soviet goverment rather then post soviet union collapse in terms of safety? Serious question I am interested in, on the influence of communist rule on safety.
 

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Re: Russia passenger jet engulfed in flames during landing!
« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2019, 09:27:07 pm »
  That's difficult to access.  Due to extreme secrecy, a lot of accidents/losses in the Soviet union weren't reported and no doubt that many that were were blamed on other causes such as "Bogey Man" Americans.  Other things such as the rise in aircraft bombings and hijackings have also played a part in the changing numbers.
 

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Re: Russia passenger jet engulfed in flames during landing!
« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2019, 10:36:08 am »
My guess is, the first hard landing ruptured a fuel tank and the trail strike on the second bounce ignited it.  As to why the dodgy landing in the first place no idea.
Over here there are some lakes, said to be the place where planes should dump their fuel while over, in case of emergency and too heavy to land (right after takeoff). How often that is used is hard to tell, as they are surrounded by forest, close to the airport. You still need to have the time for that and a good reason.

As long as the cause is unknown, it is all speculation and with hindsight there is a lot to argue.
If they lost contact to the tower and decided to return to the airport, burned excess fuel and then landed, there might not have been the foresight or time to prepare for a fire in the first place. I am certain there are rules when to do that.
OTOH the rough landing caused the fire, maybe that was caused by higher weight, maybe they had no glide path estimations available due to a defect, maybe pilot error.
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Re: Russia passenger jet engulfed in flames during landing!
« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2019, 10:55:05 am »
Some of the better early contributions (video from a pilot)  noted that this plane does not have the option to dump fuel. It's a short to medium distance plane and thus there is not as much fuel anyway. So they should be safe landing with essentially fully fueled. They even got some 45 minutes of flight time so already quite some fuel used.

The landing did look hard. So far there is little information on what problem they had with the plane and if this caused or contributed to the hard landing or if it was just a stupid pilot error.
 


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