Have a giggle - the "Dr Hulda Clark Zapper Digital Ultra"

[hamster_nz]

I just stumbled upon these searching the local auction site for a second hand Oscope. I didn't think that quackery like this still existed!

The  Dr Hulda Clark Zapper Digital Ultra

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/other-electronics/other/auction-695997983.htm

The Most Powerful of the 'Zapper Digital Ultra Series" - here are the highlights!:
- 16vDC 4500ma
- 24Mhz Core Quartz Crystal
- 3500 Disease Frequency book
- Frequencies for Cancer, Lyme Disease, Arthritis, Parkinsons, Diabetes Etc
- Harmonic Waveform periodic on 100% of Frequencies

NOTE:
Zapper Digital Ultra is tested before shipping with a Digital Oscilloscope.
Zapper Digital Ultra produces a Square Wave (Pictured).
* Digital Oscilloscope is not included with Zapper Digital Ultra

They also have another similar product "RIFE MACHINE - RIFE DIGITAL PROFESSIONAL" which features "USA manufactured chipset, by Microchip Devices USA ".

Oh my gosh!

[cybermaus]

- Programmable from 0000.01Khz to 1 Million Hertz

0000.01KHz? Odd way of saying 10Hz ?

16vDC 4500ma

I have no idea how this is supposed to work, but I am pretty sure that at 16V DC it will not be able to push 4500ma through my body. For which I am very happy.

[BravoV]

16vDC 4500ma

I have no idea how this is supposed to work, but I am pretty sure that at 16V DC it will not be able to push 4500ma through my body. For which I am very happy.

Cause you have a healthy body, you insensitive clod ! 

[VK5RC]

No,  you don't understand,  he needs one,  then he will be more conductive to the crystal energy! And his cancer,  Alzheimer's and girlfriend problems will be solved!
(Boy is it hard to type this bulls**t)

[BravoV]

(Boy is it hard to type this bulls**t)

Good, now you know and understand why its pricey. 

[amyk]

That actually looks like the cheap DDS generators you can get on eBay... they probably just bought from a Chinese supplier and rebranded them.

Hulda Clark... yes.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/10/27/requiem-for-a-quack-part-ii/

[cybermaus]

yes I noticed that earlier when I looked up this quack. And while the irony is obvious, I am not sure if "table slapping hilarious" is the right emoticon.

I wonder though, "guru's" like that, do they actually believe their BS themselves, or are they just in it for the money? If the latter, then maybe you did choose the right emoticon.

[hamster_nz]

In most cases, I think they actually believe it. Their absolute belief makes them completely blind to evidence to contrary.

[grumpydoc]

yes I noticed that earlier when I looked up this quack. And while the irony is obvious, I am not sure if "table slapping hilarious" is the right emoticon.

I wonder though, "guru's" like that, do they actually believe their BS themselves, or are they just in it for the money? If the latter, then maybe you did choose the right emoticon.

In most cases, I think they actually believe it. Their absolute belief makes them completely blind to evidence to contrary.

Some probably do, some don't. Interesting article on Hulda Clark's death here -> http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/10/27/requiem-for-a-quack-part-ii/

[Tinkerer]

Ah, the zapper. Yea, none of these 'zappers' really work.

This stems(or at least someone probably got the idea from) from the work of Dr. Rife. The basic idea of which was to vibrate viruses into pieces using their resonant frequencies, since viruses have a crystal structure.

[CJWarlock]

Badly written ad and overly promising. Also the price seems a bit high as for the device that looks a bit amateur. Other than that - this method is good for parasites only (or "mainly" - dunno about the experiments for other things) and it works as expected to. However, I've tested (on myself) a proper device that looked different than the one on the ad. I can't understand people who doesn't test devices themselves and only spread prejudice based on layman's point of view. The current normally is about 4 - 6 mA, however it can be set up to about 20 mA. For every microorganism there is a table of several frequencies that are applied in a sequence with a specific time for every frequency in that sequence. I.e. f1 for t1, f2 for t2, f3 for t3 and then the sequence loops. The current is set by separate buttons and it can be set during the sequence. This is the proper way to implement a current-control in a device as the current may vary depending on the contact between electrodes and palms. If the current drops below certain value the operator (or the user) can rise back its value on the device.

The other story is that: there is much more parasites than we are told, nearly 85% of the population is infected and we aren't told that only to avoid mass panic, and the infestation is too easy - one day you may kill the specific parasite and a few days later you may catch it again. It's mostly the conditions inside the body that are or are not suitable for specific parasite, like the general pH inside the tissues, the pH inside a digestive duct, and some other factors, not all biochemical (psychosomatic ones also play a role as they can induct a biochemical reaction in the body very effectively).

In general: it's a good tool, tested a proper, professionally looking version of it for a number of times under control of a specialist, gave proper results on itself (without any other factors at the time of the test). And actually got some practical knowledge about it, not like some bandwagon-jumpers in this thread, not to point anyone...

It's the lack of the knowledge of how the tool works and how to use it properly that makes people repeat such BS about this neat little tool. And maybe such weird ads as quoted also make it look too weird...

[babysitter]

Now I need to grab the Poppedicorn

[GeoffS]

Another thread that belongs in the 'snake oil' section.

[hamster_nz]

Adding fuel ...

"A Radio Frequency Electric Current Enhances Antibiotic Efficacy against Bacterial Biofilms"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC529182/

[CJWarlock]

Another thread that belongs in the 'snake oil' section.

Nope. The quoted ad, and that mocking writing-style used by thread author belong there.

If you'll put everything you don't know or don't trust (because don't know it in practice) in the mentioned section you'll make this forum a selfthearapeutic circle of mutual adoration for conditioned bias spreaders. I thought it's a place for curious ones. Who in this thread was actually curious enough to test the device properly? BTW.That 4A seems to me like a parameter of the PSU obviously. The working current is much lower and it's a pulsewave with regulated duty cycle.

What's funny is that the urge to spread such bias just to get attention of like-minded is actually a condition linked to, among others, some popular parasites (more precisely: their procucts of metabolism). Yeah, homo sapiens sapiens, so long on this planet, went to the space, and some still don't know interesting things about the microcosm of their own bodies.

EDIT: I think it will be good to state I'm not in any form connected to the seller of this device. I just don't like bias and layman 'experts', especially when I've properly tested something and spend time to know it.

[grumpydoc]

Adding fuel ...

"A Radio Frequency Electric Current Enhances Antibiotic Efficacy against Bacterial Biofilms"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC529182/

Oh yeah - "We passed a current of 200 mA for a voltage drop of ~20 V, which for the treatment chambers corresponds to a current density of 6 mA/cm2"

Now, if we scale that up to the human body - their electrodes were 12cm apart so assume that we pass current front to back.

Average body surface area is about 1.8m², so we're talking half that or 0.9m² or 9000cm²

Thus to achieve the same current density for the human body we're talking 9000*.006 or 54A

I respectfully submit that if I pass 54A through you, you won't be worried about bacterial infections any more. I guess that means it works 

[Dongulus]

If you'll put everything you don't know or don't trust (because don't know it in practice) in the mentioned section you'll make this forum a selfthearapeutic circle of mutual adoration for conditioned bias spreaders. I thought it's a place for curious ones. Who in this thread was actually curious enough to test the device properly?

Not many on this forum are curious enough to throw away hundreds of hard earned dollars to test a product that makes impossibly tall claims.

Also, I have no clue what you're going on about parasites and why you believe pushing current through your body at different frequencies for different lengths of times somehow obliterates them. How are you sure that it worked?

[Riotpack]

Get one of these instead

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/UDB1300-1305S-Dual-TTL-DDS-Source-Signal-Generator-60MHz-Sweep-Frequency-Counter-/151076508496?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item232cdc9350&_uhb=1

This one does up to 60MHZ to get rid of those viruses that need to be ultra vibrated. Sine, square and triangle out.

And you can use it for something useful! A multi waveform signal generator with sweep.