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| tom66:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 03, 2023, 03:56:17 am ---Also, when it comes to "global warming", has anyone stopped to consider the ultimate technical question, can we actually measure and track the temperature of the the globe accurately? How do we know we are doing it accurately? How accurately exactly? NOTE: I am NOT syaing that the globe is not warming, I'm just asking the technical question, how do we measure this, and with what degree of precision and reliability. Because, AFAIK, everything hinges on that. And maybe, is it excessive technical hubris to think we can even do that at all? --- End quote --- Satellites (using infrared thermal sensors - we know the transmissivity of the atmosphere), land temperature sensors, air temperature sensors, water buoy data. So yes, we can track it pretty well. https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcrut4/ |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: tom66 on August 01, 2023, 07:22:40 pm ---On my pension and investments I've shifted some towards ESG, but I have to retain some in high-growth or I'll have nothing to retire on. --- End quote --- ESG is something set up with the best of intenions, but is bad. Companies will just tick boxes, to gain higher ESG scores, but not have any real impact. They'll engauge in greenwashing and send their employees on stupid diversity courses, which many people here have complained about. It's something I steer clear of. --- Quote from: snarkysparky on August 03, 2023, 03:03:48 am ---I REallllly didn't want to discuss the varied theories of global warming. The psychological aspect is infinitely more interesting. Why people take the positions they do, and how inflexible they become. What are their motivations? Reminder of my original point. A giant of early quantum mechanics theory has gone to align himself with a political propaganda organization. --- End quote --- I don't know anything about the person you mentioned in your original post or the organisation. The fact you're attacking him for his views is the worst thing. We don't know how many climate scientists disagree with the mainstream narrative on climate change. There might be many who have serious doubts, which they can back up with evidence, but won't do, through fear of losing their jobs. --- Quote ---Does Clauser really believe the outcome of unregulated burning of fossil fuels will only be a small matter and that the main goal should be the concern for all those who are suffering from want of food and warmth. I get that there is massive suffering in the world. --- End quote --- That's seems like a sensible position to me. --- Quote ---Seems easy to fix if we wanted to without burning massive amounts of CO2. --- End quote --- How? So far, no on has come up with an easy answer. As I said before, I'm more worried about government over-reach at the moment, than climate change. I saw a lot of it during the pandemic. It was very frightening. |
| BBBbbb:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on August 03, 2023, 08:07:32 am --- --- Quote from: tom66 on August 01, 2023, 07:22:40 pm ---On my pension and investments I've shifted some towards ESG, but I have to retain some in high-growth or I'll have nothing to retire on. --- End quote --- ESG is something set up with the best of intenions, but is bad. Companies will just tick boxes, to gain higher ESG scores, but not have any real impact. They'll engauge in greenwashing and send their employees on stupid diversity courses, which many people here have complained about. It's something I steer clear of. --- End quote --- Yup ESG is a gamed metric used now basically for greenwashing. Recent article: https://archive.is/UF7dt |
| PlainName:
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on August 03, 2023, 05:25:37 am --- --- Quote ---2,000,000,000Kg --- End quote --- You have one zero too much. Still a lot of course, just a nitpick. --- End quote --- Yes, thanks. Got stuck thinking 10 (g) rather than 10 in 1000 as a divisor. Another thing about that is it looks pretty big, but on a global scale it's not. It's hard for us to grasp scale and what it takes to make any sort of difference. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on August 03, 2023, 08:07:32 am --- --- Quote from: tom66 on August 01, 2023, 07:22:40 pm ---On my pension and investments I've shifted some towards ESG, but I have to retain some in high-growth or I'll have nothing to retire on. --- End quote --- ESG is something set up with the best of intenions, but is bad. Companies will just tick boxes, to gain higher ESG scores, but not have any real impact. They'll engauge in greenwashing and send their employees on stupid diversity courses, which many people here have complained about. It's something I steer clear of. frightening. --- End quote --- It's a corporate virtue signaling con that is already collapsing as was inevitable. It was a clever ploy to link environmentalism to the woke agenda though. If you didn't like ESG because of one of those things then it provided a very convenient mechanism to accuse you of either racism of anti-environmentalism. Yes, stay away. |
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