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heartbroken that John Clauser seems to have joined climate change denial.
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rhb:

--- Quote from: snarkysparky on August 01, 2023, 02:18:44 am ---
I realize this could be a very short thread before it is locked.   I ask every participant to just review the facts which are accepted in the scientific community and not go to conspiracy sources.

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I received an MS in geology.  The people who spend their entire lives studying the earth don't agree with AGW.  We simply got fed up with idiots who can't even do simple arithmetic.  BTW MS = Master of Science.  A "consensus" is not created by shouting down and insulting opposing views.  And some fool claiming a "consensus" is no different from their claiming the moon is made of green cheese.

Sea level has risen by ~600 ft in GoM in the last 15,0000 years.  Why don't you try converting to inches and dividing to get the average rise per year?  Then ask yourself a simple question.  Why aren't the port cities of ancient history completely flooded?  Do you think fossil fuels were being consumed 15,000 years ago?  By whom?

The earth is over 4 billion years old.  It is real, not a computer simulation.  AGW is just a poorly thought out simulation.  Arithmetic time again.  How much is 15,000 divided by 4 billion?    Can you identify *any* hit songs after listening to less than 1 millisecond?

I got banned for pointing out the same arithmetic several years ago.  Funny how the pro-AGW posters get a pass, but those with relevant education and experience are"conspiracy theorists".

Now you come along distressed that someone might have realized that AGW is complete BS replete with forged and altered data that has and is NEVER made public.  Real scientists provide the information needed to replicate the results.  If there is peer consensus, why are the data and computer codes not on gihub?

Because that would make it easy to *prove* the AGW fraud.

Reg
MrMobodies:
I remember from one of Thunderf00ts videos a few years ago where he was speaking about climate change and something that "it is not the earth that is f*****" from an article he read somewhere but it's us humans and something else about it recovering but we will all be dead before it does.

rhb:

--- Quote from: snarkysparky on August 01, 2023, 02:18:44 am ---I don't understand.  This man is an intellectual giant in the science community. He has aligned himself with the very unscientific group "co2coalition"

Co2 coalition has no credible challenge to anthropomorphic global warming.

why would a man with that history of achievement take such a position unless he really believed it to be the truth.

I realize this could be a very short thread before it is locked.   I ask every participant to just review the facts which are accepted in the scientific community and not go to conspiracy sources.

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I've never heard of John Clauser.  If you consider him an "intellectual giant in the science community", why do you think he is wrong and you are right?  Why has he not caused you to examine and perhaps change *your* opinion.  What field of science are you in?

BTW There is no such thing as "the science community".  There are scientists.  They are human social animals.  They congregate in groups based upon shared interests.  Having a Nobel prize in physics is NOT proof of ANY knowledge of even basic intro geology any more than an MS in geology qualifies me as an expert biology.
eugene:

--- Quote from: eutectique on August 01, 2023, 07:53:10 am ---
--- Quote from: snarkysparky on August 01, 2023, 02:18:44 am ---why would a man with that history of achievement take such a position unless he really believed it to be the truth.
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Because he has facts.

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LOL! Even he never claimed to have facts.

EDIT: Science deniers are all "it's just a matter of opinion. Why can't you guys handle someone disagreeing with your opinion" And then one comes along that didn't get the memo.
Siwastaja:

--- Quote from: rhb on August 01, 2023, 02:06:04 pm ---Why aren't the port cities of ancient history completely flooded?

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But laymen are easy to fool. Open your TV on National Geographic and you'll see them repeat a documentary about how Venice is sinking because of climate change. Somehow, given the same climate and seas, Finland is raising and we are getting more and more land. Now all you need to do is apply tiny bit of critical thinking: watching the same Natgeo documentary they show how Venice is built on a swamp and has always been sinking. So why they mention sea level rise when it's causing maybe a few % of that sink rate? It's the brain washing part, mixed with factual content about Venice, which is of course interesting and fun to watch.

Usually one doesn't even need to go far in "alternative sources", I mostly follow mainstream media because it's still not based on the principle of "full propaganda", but contains facts, just with built-in interpretations you don't have to agree with. Critical thinking is all that's needed.
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