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| coppice:
--- Quote from: AndyBeez on August 05, 2023, 09:11:24 pm ---When things go wrong, politicians brief the media against their own scientific advisors, claiming they were misled by flawed science :-// --- End quote --- They have no need to go against their own scientific advisors. They have lots of advisors, and there will always be some of them with a point of view the politicians like. :) |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: PlainName on August 05, 2023, 09:40:50 pm ---Plenty more. Politicians could ignore their advisors advice (if given), but when the advisors can't even agree on the facts it's no surprise that everyone is seen as clueless, a shill, whatever insult is currently du jour. Oh, throw in two spoons of hindsight and it's a mix made for conspiracy theorists. --- End quote --- Except that politicans implemented lockdowns and mandates, and destroyed civil liberties. And they kept them up and double and tripled down, for in some cases, years, for obvious fear of having been called wrong. They are absolutely to blame and deserve everything they get. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: coppice on August 05, 2023, 06:44:01 pm --- --- Quote from: PlainName on August 05, 2023, 06:03:17 pm --- --- Quote ---As a kid of the 80's I grew up with the fear of the Ozone layer being destroyed and we even had a TV show called Captain Planet and the Planeteers and that made a big thing about cleaning up the world. Yet it didn't do a thing to change stuff if the current press is to be believed. --- End quote --- Didn't the ban on CFCs fix that up? Can't recall any recent press stuff about this either way, so if you have a relevant link I'd be interested to see it. --- End quote --- It would appear that changes to CFC usage have reversed the problem, and the ozone holes have been closing up. --- End quote --- Last I heard, yes, it was healing, but it's taken 40 years or something. The difference with CFC usage was that eliminating it didn't change, interrupt, or destroy anyone's life. It was an easy and obvious change which we just did pretty much overnight with almost no consequence. |
| NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 06, 2023, 02:06:02 am ---Last I heard, yes, it was healing, but it's taken 40 years or something. The difference with CFC usage was that eliminating it didn't change, interrupt, or destroy anyone's life. It was an easy and obvious change which we just did pretty much overnight with almost no consequence. --- End quote --- Similarly, they should have phased out a whole lot of food additives, such as artificial colors and high fructose corn syrup. It would help improve health in general, which helps reduce severe Covid cases. Or they could phase out factory farming to replace it with sustainable farming, which would both improve health and reduce the environmental impact of farming. It would also eliminate the risk of factory farming starting another pandemic. (Which has happened before in 2009, luckily a very light one.) |
| BrianHG:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on August 06, 2023, 02:06:02 am ---Last I heard, yes, it was healing, but it's taken 40 years or something. The difference with CFC usage was that eliminating it didn't change, interrupt, or destroy anyone's life. It was an easy and obvious change which we just did pretty much overnight with almost no consequence. --- End quote --- I have skin acutely sensitive to UV exposure. And since I have decided to go bald for the last few decades, I have to be careful, using sun-screen on my head if the local UV index is high and I know I will be outside for more than an hour, usually in the summer. However, I cannot say how much of this extended effect is due to Ozone depletion of if this is just natural for me. This was less of a problem in the 1970s, though I still had to be extra careful of sunburn on my skin. |
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