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heartbroken that John Clauser seems to have joined climate change denial.

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tom66:

--- Quote from: Wallace Gasiewicz on August 07, 2023, 02:50:45 pm ---So what is methane rating?

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You can Google these they're not secret.   It is around 85x at a 20 year timescale and about 25 over 100 year timescale.  Most climatologists seem to prefer the 20 year figure as it's more important to consider short term feedback loops, but either way methane emissions are bad news.

The GWP drops because methane decomposes to CO2 and H2O slowly due to UV in the upper atmosphere, which both have lower GWPs.

JustMeHere:
When plants die, they rot and release greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.  The grass will eventually become methane if the cow eats it or not.  Leaves from trees die and rot into greenhouse gasses too.  Limbs fall off and rot.  The tree itself will eventually die and rot away too.

tautech:

--- Quote from: JustMeHere on August 07, 2023, 03:27:49 pm ---When plants die, they rot and release greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.  The grass will eventually become methane if the cow eats it or not.  Leaves from trees die and rot into greenhouse gasses too.  Limbs fall off and rot.  The tree itself will eventually die and rot away too.

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Yep.

At ground level more happens than most are aware.
The latest fad today is protection of biodiversity by way of waterway enhancements, fencing streams and adding plantings which exclude livestock where for millennia they have accessed their water requirements.

While a worthy cause it has never been properly thought through as it also excludes waterway maintenance and in time will create flooding problems as the waterways clog and become overgrown.

Slowly the watercourses will revert to an earlier natural swamp state full of rotting materials all exuding.....you guessed it, Methane !   |O

Further this worthy cause of planting and fencing waterways provides a wonderful superhighway for vermin to more easily spread far and wide to compromise the very thing Gubbermints are trying to enhance, biodiversity !  |O

It seems even the highly educated have little idea of what actually happens at ground level when blinded by apparent worthy projects.  ::)

tom66:

--- Quote from: JustMeHere on August 07, 2023, 03:27:49 pm ---When plants die, they rot and release greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.  The grass will eventually become methane if the cow eats it or not.  Leaves from trees die and rot into greenhouse gasses too.  Limbs fall off and rot.  The tree itself will eventually die and rot away too.

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Believe it or not this has been considered, methane eventually decomposes into CO2 in the atmosphere, and CO2 is converted into O2 via photosynthesis and stored via ocean processes.

Pre-industrialised society the rate that methane was created was not hazardous, because it decomposed quickly enough that feedback loops were not formed.

The fear is now as the climate warms we could see permafrost (such as the large plains in Siberia) start to melt which often releases trapped methane gas.  This could cause further warming and further releases and it doesn't matter how much in CO2 emissions we abate, the methane has a far more significant impact.

Current levels of methane are equivalent to roughly 50ppm additional CO2 (~15-20 years future CO2 emissions).

Tipping points like these are exceedingly difficult to assess, with huge error bars.   The risk is we unintentionally stray into one.

tszaboo:

--- Quote from: bezzada on August 06, 2023, 05:42:48 pm ---I don't think it is necessarily about "enslavement" or any other "big reset" conspiracy theories.

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It's not a conspiracy theory. It's straight from their website:
https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset
Oh, and this is from yesterday:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/08/apprenticeships-could-change-the-way-americans-work-and-learn/

Can't afford a college degree? Work for free at this large company and receive their accolades that are useless everywhere else.

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